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[–] hdnsmbt@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, because everybody knows the obvious answer. It's untethered capitalism. And no it hasn't always been that way. Politicians weren't always whores for the rich. That's a rather recent development that can absolutely be stopped by the will of the people.

[–] Crowfiend@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

As much as I respect your argument; the Romans. Or any civilisation really. It literally has always been that way.

[–] hdnsmbt@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I don't know enough about Roman politics to contradict but "any civilisation really" is definitely too broad of a stroke.

[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Are you implying that the US, and the Roman's, never had a period of growth and expansion that wasn't late stage capitalist rot?

The comment isn't saying this never happens really, it's saying it doesn't have to. This is capitalism with no guardrails.

[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

Before Caesar, Rome actually had checks and balances to keep one person from amassing too much influence. For example, they had two consuls, which was the highest political position at the time and acted like as the heads of state.

Until Caesar fucked up those systems by literally declaring himself "dictator for life". So really, it's not always been this way, it's usually just a few individuals that keep fucking it up for everyone else. Until they end up with a knife in their back.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

As much as I respect your argument; the Romans. Or any civilisation really. It literally has always been that way.

[Citation needed]