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[–] iesou@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (25 children)

Truly honest question here so I can understand you: who are you voting for then? Are you ok with a man who has no problem calling for a genocide of his own right here in the US as well as hunting down and killing/hauling people for disagreeing with him? What real alternative is there right now in 2024? Any situation where people are killing others like what's happening to Palestine is unacceptable absolutely and unconditionally. But does that mean we should welcome a regime that is going to do the same here to people like you and me on principle?

Basically, what are you planning to do? All I saw in this reply was "I'm not like you and you can't make me be like you." What are you planning to do to enact the change YOU want to see?

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

7th>Are you ok with a man who has no problem calling for a genocide of his own right here in the US as well as hunting down and killing/hauling people for disagreeing with him?

So no one here agrees with accelerationism. But I genuinely beleive that people like you will only take action when you are personally affected. You will not take action or even apeak out against your guy because "the other guy will do worse". But see, I think democrats will actually fight harder against fascism if they arent busy defending the guy upholding it it.

You live in a country that had NO alternative to genocide, you say so yourself. Does that sound like a democracy? Why should I care about voting if its not a democracy?

What are you planning to do to enact the change YOU want to see?

Trying to get people to realize that the hamsterwheel they are running in will kill us all regardless if the head guy is orange or not. My only real skill is being able to educate others.

What are YOU gonna do besides :vote: for 99% hilter over 100% hitler? If things are as bad as you say they are (imo they're worse), and thats your ONLY plan. Then from the bottom of my heart, fuck off.

[–] iesou@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

people like you will only take action when you are personally affected.

People like me? You don't know a whole lot about me. I am a 30 something father of 2 who works every day to try and get people to realize the bullshit we are in. I think Biden is an old out of touch asshole in league with big corpo as are all the rest of the Democrats except maybe a few in current fed government. I also know for a fact that our socialist policies are being tanked on purpose by both sides in a lot of ways in order to make communism seem misguided at best and evil at worst by comparison.

What I want more than anything is for my kids and their friends, and the rest of humanity for that matter to grow up in a stable and healthy environment.

How I feel right now though is that we have a million fires burning right now, between rampant fascism, genocide, misplaced hate and dehumanization of minorities, not to mention end stage capitalism gobbling up the base that supports it and a climate that will destroy us because we cannot make headway to save ourselves because of these big corporations and rich fucks.

But more than anything right now, I don't want my kids to be fatherless because I disagree with an orange man. I don't disagree with any of your thoughts about where we are and how the world is, and I also know and hate that a vote for Biden is a vote for support of the IDF's killing of Palestinians, but allowing Trump to win won't change that, all it will do is bring additional fascist policies further into the open and bring them right here.

What would you do in my position? As a parent to children who have no part in any of this shit? I don't defend Biden. At all. All human life is sacred, and I will continue to do what I can to stop killing wherever it might happen. Including the US.

Who says this is a democracy? Reagan, Citizens United and so on have gotten rid of that.

Thank you for your perspective.

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Im sorry and it sucks, but the future timeline where we live in peace, where our children get to enjoy peace, was stolen from us long ago.

If you think the systems at play wont take you away from your kids because a dem(that you still disagree with) is in the whitehouse, I must warn you to be much more careful.

Also lol this country was NEVER a democracy. There has never been proper representation.

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