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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This seems like a good place to post this reminder that in the last 50 years income has lost to inflation by 137 points. That's decades of prices rising faster than wages. It's not rocket science. They walked away with all of the productivity gains, and gave the entire country a pay cut at the same time. You want a boring dystopia? How about stealing your paycheck a couple percentage points a year until suddenly we realize we can't afford to live without 3 full time incomes in one household.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where I'm from, the median house price has risen 600% relative to the median income in the past 50 years.

That means the deposit we pay today is the equivalent of the entire 30 year mortgage of the people calling you lazy.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Yup, the 137 points is just "core" inflation. Education, Housing, Food, and Cars all come in over that. Which is fine because those aren't necessary in the US right?

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Without violent pushback there is no reason at all to improve things. Cant afford to live?.. fuck you, we'll find someone who can. Piss off, peasant.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

We could do a general strike.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

One percent relative what the market was at the starting point.

The market today is 237 % of starting point (probably 1990).

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

gave the entire country a pay cut

Entire country? Which country? We're talking about our whole western civilisation.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The data I'm using is for the US.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Inflation isn't prices growing faster than wages, it's just prices growing in general. Don't let anyone tell you that gentle inflation is bad for poor people.

Debtors gain from inflation because they pay their fixed debts with currency worth less. When interest rates are low, refinance or borrow at low fixed rates. When inflation rises, your fixed debt costs go down in real terms.

If you want wages to increase, support a higher minimum wage.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

This isn't just inflation over 50 years. This is divergence in the inflation of wages and core inflation. So prices over all have risen by 137 points more than wages have risen. This isn't the talk about inflation vs deflation vs death spirals. This is everything slowly becoming less affordable over time. And it really doesn't matter if the money is worth less when the interest rate on the loan is far beyond inflation in the first place. You either pay it back quickly (monthly on a card) or watch it spiral out of control rapidly because adjustable rate loans work off of inflation and your wages didn't go up to match. So now you have that much less money a month to buy food.

Theoretically inflation is good for borrowers. In practice you need a certain base of money for that to be true. If you can't cover increased costs over the life of the loan then inflation is going to take you behind the shed.