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On this day in 1930, 50 Vietnamese soldiers of the French colonial army mutinied, attempting to take control of the Yên Bái garrison and begin a war of independence against the French. The uprising failed and many of its leaders were executed.

The revolt was planned in advance by the Việt Nam Quốc Dân Đảng (VNQDD), a socialist party founded by Nguyễn Thái Học that sought independence from France. The VNQDD had previously attempted to engage in clandestine activities to undermine French rule, but increasing state scrutiny on their activities led to their leadership risking a large scale military attack in the Red River Delta in northern Vietnam.

Multiple uprisings were planned throughout the region, with VNQDD members taking command of forces with specific strategic missions. The uprisings were supposed to be simultaneous, but matters were complicated when a messenger carrying an order from Học to delay the uprising until the 15th was arrested.

Early in the morning of February 10th, 1930, ~50 Vietnamese soldiers stationed at Yên Bái attacked their 29 French officers, aided by 60 civilian members of the VNQDD. Although the French were caught off guard and several officers were killed, the majority of the soldiers present remained loyal to the colonial army and helped suppress the uprising. Three Vietnamese sergeants were awarded the Médaille militaire for their efforts.

Later than evening, another planned VNQDD revolt in the rural district of Sơn Dương was also suppressed. Although insurgents initially succeeded, raising the VNQDD flag over the town, at sunrise they were routed by the colonial army.

The French retaliation was swift and brutal. When VNQDD forces fled into the village of Co Am, the French bombed the entire settlement, killing 200 people, mostly civilians. This was the first time that military air power had been used in Indochina.

In France, the severity of the sentences led to a campaign of solidarity by the French Communist Party and various demonstrations by Vietnamese expatriates. On May 22nd, 1930, more than 1,000 demonstrated outside Élysée Palace against the French reaction to Yên Bái. The police arrested 47 people, deporting 17 back to Vietnam, where most of them engaged in communist anti-colonial activities.

In total, 547 individuals, both soldiers and civilians, were prosecuted for their role in the uprising. Thirty-nine of the surviving leaders of the VNQDD were sentenced to death, although some of these were later granted clemency. Học, along with twelve others, was guillotined on June 17th, 1930. The thirteen shouted "Vietnam!" in unison before being executed.

The subsequent French military and civilian crackdown saw military security increase and the VNQDĐ's ability to threaten French authority in Vietnam was extinguished. The vast majority of the leadership were killed or sentenced to death, and the remnants of the VNQDĐ fled to China, where several factions emerged under disparate leadership.

In the long run, Yên Bái allowed the Indochinese Communist Party of Ho Chi Minh to inherit the VNQDĐ's status as the leading anti-colonial revolutionary movement. After the Second World War, an opportunity to fight for Vietnamese independence arose, and this allowed the communists in the Viet Minh to dictate the platform of the independence movement. As a result, the communists were able to position themselves to become the dominant force in Vietnam post-independence.

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[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Do y'all think WW3 is coming? If a conflict on that scale happened within the next 5-10 years I wouldn't be surprised, but I have a lot anxiety. I've heard plenty of people say they are reminded of the 30s by today's events, but is war like that possible anymore?

[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Who would fight it? US? We got one good attack wave before all our stuff falls appart. We have nothing worth taking so I don't think anyone would really bother attacking us.

We might try to host the party but in the end no one would show up

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

I could be wrong but I would think, maybe in a scenario where the US breaks apart and is undefended some nations could seize farmland and other natural resources. With increasing climate change there may be more motivation for taking better territory and resources. Ocean nations that stand to be heavily affected by changes in the ocean could band together and try to form new territories in more hospitable places, especially without a strong navy like the US as a world police.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think it'll look a lot more like the breakup of the Western Roman Empire than some titanic clash between the Western and Eastern blocs like WW2 and then the Cold War was. Even during the Cold War, American military might left a lot to be desired. They were absolute experts at killing hundreds of thousands if not millions of civilians in bombing campaigns, they could do a bunch of coups without breaking a sweat and then be home before dinner, but actually winning military victories? That requires a sense of long-term commitment, strategy, a capacity for analysis and self-critique, a military-industrial complex that is out for more than just profit, and perhaps most importantly, not having your logistics chains stretching across the entire planet to reach far-flung nations. The US really is the true heir of Nazi Germany. ...well, and Nazi Germany also took after the US, so it's kinda of a Nazi ouroboros there.

I think it'll basically be the US taking one step forward followed by three steps backwards. They'll whack a country and massively degrade it (e.g. Palestine) but in the process, a couple more nations will realize the precarious position of the empire and take their chances. Then as the US has to devote resources there, too, another couple nations will try. And all this time, the US government and Congresspeople are completely unwilling to show that they're reasonable people, willing to compromise - it'll be "No, the ENTIRE PLANET must be under our boots!" They'll try and have it all, which will lead to them having nothing by the end.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

I agree this seems most likely, and like WhatDoYouMeanPodcast said, the people themselves are more interconnected and have a lot less motivation to fight for nations than they might have had in the 40s. Who would accept a draft today but the most hardcore nationalists? I could see it being a bigger debate in the future whether events classify as a world war or not, with an increase in proxy wars, political manipulation, coups etc maybe.

I believe we are too interconnected and aware of each other. When young people are tweeting about the war and you have people vigilant about astroturfing support, there has to be so much push back to the idea that you're gonna go kill some asshole half way across the world for profit. You can't get people to join the army now and you can't get people to give a fuck about society. It would be a reckoning between apathy and sinophobia.

I'm one of those people who feel like history is repeating, but I also think there's some sadness like in dark souls 3. People who couldn't leave Ukraine when war broke out sort of looked like they got roped into a project when there's 30 minutes left in their shift. Like what the fuck are we still fighting for? Zelensky had 15 minutes of fame. Israel is a wedge between the government and the people who'd fight for the "country." And the perspective is Amerikkka focused, but the people who have this world first giga military with bases everywhere must influence what war looks like. And the only people who want that are 75+. Only establishment Republicans could stomach the idea of sending their own kids to fight for some who gives a fuck.

America is getting an operation Northwoods

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I personally don't think so. The west, the likely perpetrators, like to puff their chest more than get officially involved (as in official war declarations and the like). I do think there'll continue to be many new or worse conflicts worldwide but it won't spark into a world war.

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

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[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

yes but only if the US stays together long enough to prosecute it, which in further disagreement with the "nothing ever happens" club, i think the US is in a much deeper crisis than we perceive