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Why USA pays so well to developers (or rarher Europe pays so bad) (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 2 years ago by HelloLemmySup@sh.itjust.works to c/programming@programming.dev

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Or rather why Europe pays so bad.

I wonder whats the reason behind many american companies being able to pay 200-400kusd a year while its hard to get past 100k usd in the richer countries of Europe (Germany, Scandinavia, UK, etc.). A junior in USA gets more than a senior in Europe. And after 10 years the american may get 2-4x the salary of the european counterpart. In contrast life in USA is often even cheaper.

Are european companies greedy?
Are european companies less competitive?
Are the high taxes and equality in Europe pushing companies to not try harder to reward talent while USA rewards the high performers as they can see the benefits it brings?

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[–] HelloLemmySup@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Im aware one of the few ways to get some decent salary here is do contract work. Same job as regular employee but 2x the salary. Ofc no sick leave, etc.

Still US companies pay according to my union statistics 30-80% more and they cant go around the law.

[–] jmk1ng@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

...according to my union statistics...

I mean... you've got to be trolling at this point. No one is this clueless.

[–] HelloLemmySup@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Most people take these statistics where I work and are very reliable. Theyre so reliable than when you go take a salary negotiation they pull them out and say you should get around that and its not much more you can get usually. Unless the company is american. Then again 30-80% more than average is expected according to these surveys which have been correct so far everytime Ive used them.

Its so ridiculous than a newly graduated engineer that is lucky to work for an american company can get more salary than a person with 20 years experience in an average company. And thats why I created the post why do americans pay more even outside of America.

[–] d_cent@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

American companies pay more because they have huge investors. They have huge investors because they know the company won't have accountability to do things right because they are in America.

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