this post was submitted on 02 Mar 2024
49 points (98.0% liked)
chapotraphouse
13473 readers
1 users here now
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Vaush posts go in the_dunk_tank
Dunk posts in general go in the_dunk_tank, not here
Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from the_dunk_tank
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
and? A youtuber is never going to move the needle on veganism.
I find that hegemonic/rancid takes about veganism are a pretty good flag for other bad politics. It's South Park behavior. Especially because shitting on tofu like contra did denigrates East Asian cultures as collateral damage
Mocking vegans didn't originate with South Park, it originated with annoying vegans. And lots of people dislike tofu because it's hard to prepare correctly or because it's an odd texture or something. Not being a vegan doesn't make you a bad person, and it's reaching to imply making fun of tofu is racist.
It definitely does though
Alright so every historical member of the communist movement is a bad person...
Well, no one is perfect. A bit hard to morally justify killing animals for no real reason though
So it's "no one is perfect" when it's someone you like, but "you're a bad person" when it's someone you dislike.
The reason is to eat them. Following that logic, every indigenous culture that eats meat is constantly doing something morally unjustifiable.
Comparing indigenous people who actually hunt their food to westerners who cause death and suffering on an industrial scale because veggies are yucky is just disingenuous. I get it, you like your murder treats.
Okay so it's acceptable to hunt for meat, and the issue is industrial farming rather than eating meat. If that's the case we can take a more tempered approach than "all western meat-eaters are bad people". After all, they didn't set up the system of industrial farming, and they grew up with it as a part of their culture.
Also, I don't eat meat and I strive to eat vegan wherever possible. But I like to think I have a materialist, non-moralist approach to the issue. At least, I don't get angry at people who haven't come to the same conclusion as me.