this post was submitted on 08 Mar 2024
4 points (100.0% liked)

World News

32285 readers
1 users here now

News from around the world!

Rules:

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] MarcoPOLO@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Freedom of speech and the right to protest are when you get arrested for shouting at the person responsible for the death of your son.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you even read the article you posted?

“Our officers warned him to stop and when he did not, the man was removed from the House Galleries,” USCP said in a statement. He was arrested for crowding, obstructing or incommoding, said USCP, which added that “disrupting the Congress and demonstrating in the Congressional Buildings is illegal.”

[–] MarcoPOLO@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Protesting your primary legislative body? Illegal.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Correct. During an official session.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

D.C. Code § 22–1307 - Crowding, Obstructing, or Incommoding. Disrupting the Congress and demonstrating in the Congressional Buildings is illegal.”

https://floridianpress.com/2024/03/gold-star-father-arrested-at-bidens-sotu-address/

[–] MarcoPOLO@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Protesting your primary legislative body? Illegal.

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can protest all you want outside. Someone would get kicked out of a school board meeting for this. Free speech means the government can't arrest you for the content of what you say or restrict political assembly.

[–] MarcoPOLO@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Congress shall make no law [...] abridging the freedom [...] to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet another moronic comment from you. Having the right to petition the government does not mean you can disrupt official proceedings and refuse to leave when ordered to by the police. It's the content of speech that's protected, you can't go to jail for saying Biden sucks...you can go to jail for disrupting official proceedings and trespassing. You're pretending the right to free speech gives one the right to conduct that speech however they want, and that is again...an incredibly stupid thing to suggest.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

How bizarre is it that people simply choose to misinterpret plain English?

One law says you can peacefully petition, the other says you can not be disruptive and obstructive.

This should not be something anyone finds arguable.

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good job, but our rights don’t include standing up and screaming during official proceedings. It’s more that the government can’t arrest him for writing an op-ed or Twitter feed criticizing Biden.

[–] MarcoPOLO@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

I don't think you understand what the first amendment actually claims

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try going in a courthouse and yelling at someone during a hearing.

Hell, try going in a Post Office and yelling at someone.

[–] MarcoPOLO@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Post Office is not a political body

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used that example because they are also federal property as opposed to private property. It seems you missed the point, though. Free speech doesn’t mean you can create a public disturbance.

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] horsey@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The entire story and event are Republican media stunts. Yes, the guy lost his son and is upset. But blaming Biden for it (like OP did - "his fault") is about like what they did with Clinton and Benghazi. Strangely it comes up often on Lemmy, "I'm so leftist that I repeat and amplify exactly what Republicans say!"