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[–] skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Hint: communism doesn't work in practice on scales the size of nations. The ideology is too fragile and susceptible to corruption and outside influence and you end up with shit like this.

Before anyone says "it's not real communism" that is the point. It's useless if it's too weak against other ideologies to be properly implemented.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same argument can be applied for free market capitalism: it's too fragile and susceptible to corruption and outside influence. The reality is that the big economies of the world lie somewhere in the middle.

Correct assessment. Absolutism in political systems is unproductive and leads to poor outcomes.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Socialism works. Workers can democratically direct production at scale. Communism is the goal, but Socialism isn't some sacrifice to get through, it's a marked improvement on Capitalism. Capitalism itself is the sacrifice.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But even if communism was an ideology and an unreachable standard that a community or country was striving to active, you would expect it to be harder to even become a millionaire

Communism is an definitely an ideology. Literally first sentence from Wikipedia: "Communism [...] is a left-wing to far-left sociopolitical, philosophical, and economic ideology..."

But yeah, it's kinda suspicious that every nation scale attempt at communism has ended in failure or a system that is decidedly not communist, whether through internal strife or external influence.