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Chat surveillance law by the EU Parliament? (results.elections.europa.eu)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
 

The results are showing up... Now we have to hope for the law to be declined... Already discussed about the chat control law of the EU, here : https://lemmy.ml/post/16469106

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But why can't you just use software from GitHub or F-Droid or something that doesn't have to obey these laws? Is it illegal?

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

good luck getting everyone you know to communicate with you with "software from GitHub or F-Droid or something". I'm having a hard time making people try out Signal, which is freely available on the major app stores (and which, by the way, has declared that they'll leave the EU market if one device scanning will be enforced on them).

[–] chordsphere1@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think this would give me a reason to tell my contacts why I refuse from now on to use whatsapp for instance. I could say something like whatsapp now scans every single photo you send, therefore I won't use it so contact me on some other place.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good luck with it, mister/miss

[–] chordsphere1@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Thank you, good luck to you too

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's sad but try to "afraid" a bit that's almost the only way to convinced non-privacy guy to switch...

[–] chordsphere1@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, what does "unfraid" mean?

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Signal is great but lack some points, like the requirement of the mobile number or the centralisation of the servers

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

okay, but that's not relevant to what I'm talking about here.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I wasn't even talking about such cases. I was talking about people who need really secure and private communication in that particular comment

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In fact it would be illegal but you wouldn't take risks by using them. But the authorities could make them shut down one by one

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can't if you use a VPN and the app is not in their jurisdiction

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would be difficult for sure but in fact it would be illegal

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't care if it's illegal if the law violates people's privacy tbh

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This person gets it. If something like this is made illegal, the best way to fight it is just to ignore them. After all, they can't lock up everybody. Then they would have no subjects to enslave. I mean tax. I mean enslave.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand totally but it is better to stop this law as soon as possible