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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by FuckyWucky@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
 

https://x.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1800915894585147399

Krugman, despite being a neoliberal knows that food is an essential item. So likely he is propagandizing for Biden.

Look at personal savings rate.

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[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 104 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

Perhaps the most egregious part of this is that the graph shows dollar expenditures, not meals bought.

  • A store in 2014 sells 1000 hamburgers at $5 each = $5000 in expenditures
  • Same store in 2024 sells 800 hamburgers at $10 each = $8000 in expenditures

It's common for companies to raise prices to increase revenue, even if raising prices results in fewer people buying your product. This shit is taught in high school economics. Absolutely nothing here shows anything about how many people can afford fast food.

[–] Teapot@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I thought so too, but look at the y axis. These are inflation adjusted, to 2017 dollars

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

as people in the replies to Stancil (linked by Parsani below) mention, the CPI adjustment is based on overall inflation, not inflation of restaurant prices specifically, so it's still flawed IMO since I believe restaurant (especially fast food) price inflation significantly outpaces overall inflation.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even adjusting for inflation, it's common to raise prices to increase revenue (consumer expenditures). There are business people all over the world right now drawing up graphs of how much total revenue they can generate at different price points, and low price/mass sales is not a good approach for many companies.

This is an important point, because prices are set largely by what people are willing to pay, not costs + whatever margin a company picks, for example. Tons of right-wing media pretends industry does rudimentary cost + margin pricing to push talking points like "if our business has to pay one cent more in taxes or wages that will ultimately be paid by consumers," which is preposterous theoretically and has been disproven by real data over and over.

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

not costs + whatever margin a company picks

Basically: sale price is determined by what company thinks maximizes overall profit, cost of product (including shrink) determines whether the product is carried at all. It's something I bring up in the shoplifting debate a lot, as people assume it increases price of individual items. Of course shrink plays a role when businesses make decisions, but why would a business charge you less than you're willing to pay for an item?

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