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When I first started this show I found it to be a really awkward mix of comedy and seriousness. It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times as some kind of comic relief from a really serious situation. Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough or maybe the show just grew on me, but by season 2 I found myself loving this show.

To me it seems as every bit as comfy, intellectually interesting and even funny as some classic Star Treks while still clearly being its own thing. I wish more comfy space shows like this would get made.

What are your thoughts on The Orville? Also I miss Alara.

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[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It counts as Star Trek in my personal canon. Really hope season 4 happens.

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[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's the best Star Trek series since DS9.

I miss Alara, too. Lieutenant Replacement Goldfish isn't nearly as good.

It's BS that Yaphit got a medal for that business with the Kaylons but Ty Finn didn't. He was the actual hero there!

Dolly Parton cameo had me friggin' dying.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I bet Dolly was just tickled pink that her song is a revolutionary anthem

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[–] acow@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I wanted to like it, but didn’t get through S1. I found the humor so uneven that it made the whole thing almost uncomfortable. Is it an irreverent parody, sci-fi, slightly crude comedy, or is it Star Trek? It’s all of those things, and I’m happy folks enjoyed it. I’ll try to revisit at some point, but for now I’m so happy that Strange New Worlds is as surprisingly excellent as it is. For me, it nails the mixture of lightheartedness, sci-fi adventure, and earnestness that I like in Star Trek.

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[–] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

I like it a lot. I hope there's a season 4.

[–] Sassel@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

This is a good show that is trying very hard not to be a great show. I would love to see it explode with popularity more than it already has.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

Great show in my opinion, liked season one and season two, while not so into season three until Charlie died. Definitely the highlight of that season.

[–] spiderkle@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

we need a new season!

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Best show ever. I almost peed myself when Ed Mercer tried to eat those stones in the admiral's office in the first episode. Took me like 5minutes of the first episode to love it. And it has so many good episodes, etical dilemmas and thought provoking stories. And I like the Moclans. And i like the storytelling. Especially that most stories take one episode.

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[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I had fun with it, and thought it had a pretty solid ending for the last season.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times

That's Seth humor in a nutshell.

Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough

Name a show that started off any other way though. Even SG1 is cringe in the first season. Lexx maybe, but even that one grew different after the first few episodes.

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[–] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I was surprised by how good season one was. Season two was great fun. I hated season three.

I feel they tried too hard to make serious points and failed at telling good stories. They wanted to have big thoughts, but just weren't entertaining.

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[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Love the coincidence, I am actually watching "Twice in a Lifetime" right now. I love the show so much. In many ways I see it as a more realistic Star Trek. The characters are flawed, they bicker and squabble and make bad decisions so often that they can't feel guilty for them or else it would crush them. I adore Star Trek, but the writing and characterizations in Orville are so relatable for me. The people are projections of my friends and family, for better or worse.

Also, at least the actress who played Alara got to date Seth Macfarlane.

[–] Gbagginsthe3rd@aussie.zone 6 points 2 years ago

It took me a few episodes. But now I think it’s entertaining and wholesome!

It’s my utopia of what humans could become in the future

[–] Riker_Maneuver@startrek.website 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While I don't regret watching it—and I'd probably even throw on a new season if it gets one—I felt like it was missing any true classic episodes. I also kept having this strange sense of familiarity with episodes, as if it was just repurposing or rehashing older Star Trek plots.

I kept thinking, "Wasn't there a TNG/DS9/Whatever episode that explored this same general concept/idea, but better?". It felt like it was maybe borrowing just a bit too much from it's inspiration.

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[–] CatfishSushi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Wanted to like it more than I did. Just didn't think it was all that funny.

Now I thought Avenue 5 (HBO) was absolutely hilarious. It's the funny I expected from Orville. Too bad it ended after 2 seasons.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Cheesy but a different kind of cheesy than Star Trek.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago

I loved The Orville when it was coming out, it scratched an itch that nothing else at the time did, but while it's been on hiatus/canceled we have gotten Star Trek Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks. One does the firm sci-fi with a relatable crew better, and the other does the comedy Star Trek better. I wouldn't be opposed to more episodes of the Orville, but I don't think that it is as needed as it was when it was coming out.

[–] Lanthanae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago

Entertainment wise, I find it to be very fun to watch and am always engaged while I have it on.

Thematically, I think it has either a bad or watered down argument sometimes, but other times I think it really hits. Either way though, I find the way it approaches certain ideas very interesting and compelling to discuss with my SO while we watch it, so even when I don't agree with the thematic intent of the episode, I find it worthwhile to interact with.

That said, it did make me cringe a little bit for the first 2 episodes. They're still worth watching for context instead of skipping them, but don't make any judgements on it until episode 3.

All in all, I give it a 8.5/10 personally but a 7/10 critically.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Season 3 was not good; it was heavy-handed writing and wasn't all that good drama.

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