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image descriptionTwitter post by @DirtyTesLa: Thankful to have Cybertruck to help me with the real work and big loads 🙏 (image of Cybertruck with several bags of soil in the trunk)

Reply by @KralikLj: Hell boy that would fit in a bicycle. Way more carbon free than that wankpanzer. (image of cargo bicycle with several bags of soil strapped to the front)

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[–] groats_survivor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Call me crazy, but I think original op, the one with the cyber truck, was actually making a joke

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I also think it's more of a sarcastic remark about size of the cargo bed, if you can even call it a cargo bed.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meanwhile in a real truck...

[–] Plavatos@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

This image broke me, 95% of the trucks I see everyday are used as commuter vehicles with nothing in the bed. And the ones that do are hauling a single sheet of plywood. I plum forgot people use trucks to move stuff.

[–] N_Crow@leminal.space 1 points 1 year ago

Can we just officially call it the Wankpanzer? That's too good.

[–] graeghos_714@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

LOL, my son and I both drive hatchback Mazda 3's. My son had to drive to a customers site because the boxes were too tall to fit in a truck like this. And I just went to Lowes for mulch and stuff and put 7 bags of mulch, 4 bags of dirt, and 1 bag of compost in the back with my seats down without going over my weight limit. But I did similar in my Saturn Aura 4 door with fold down back seats. I only drove a truck when I needed to tow a boat. When the boat went so did the truck

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

You don't even need a bike like that, just a couple bicycle bags hanging off the side of a standard old bicycle

[–] Lekip@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I think I'm going to refer to pick ups and SUVs exclusively as "wankpanzers" from now on

[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wankpanzer has now been added to my lexicon.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

My takeaway as well

Panzerwanken. Perfect.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lol, I don't know about a bicycle but I routinely toss six bags of dirt in the back of my Honda Accord and my ex- boss has a trailer for his Corolla.

Also, presumably he got it to the checkout at the store in a grocery cart, he (I am making an assumption here that this is a dude) has to know you don't need a truck to move it.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

One drove by us at the end of a hike yesterday and I literally thought.. "what the fuck is.. oh - oh wait is that their.. ugh, oh no. Fuck this- fuck this guy driving. Hey buddy you look like a jackass fuck your Nazi CEO funding bullshit pedestrian murdering truck."

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I appreciate what Len's going for, but showing a Cybertruck with a load that would fit in a normal car, and 'owning' it by showing a bike carrying what appears to be half as much, is only going to give ammo to the dipshits with their massively oversized trucks.

'Hey, bro! My Ford SuperMacho DonkeyDong Pavement Princess edition would fit the load from the Cybertruck and the load from the cargo bike. I could throw the bike on top too!'

Reframing it as 'the Cybertruck's so shitty that half the load will fit on a bike with no issues, and you don't have to be seen driving a Cybertruck' would probably work better 👍

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Them: I pay $700/m on my truck loan so I can move a ton of mulch every year.

Me: I pay a $57 delivery fee so I can move six tons of mulch every year.

We are not the same.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Can rent a truck from home depot for like $20/hr. Most people are probably paying more than that a week in added fuel costs to drive a gas guzzler of a truck.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The packages on the bike look far longer, it's quite possible that it actually is the same load

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do look bigger, but it seems like the pink section is bigger, and the rest is the same size as the bags in the truck, making the bike's cargo of four bags equivalent to about five of the truck's bags.

That's just a guess from a bad photo though.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My curiosity has been piqued, so here are the actual numbers:

There's actually more on the bike. I love this post even more now

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Oh, wow! Sometimes it feels nice to be wrong 😁

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A liter of potting soil is roughly a kilo. Very few people will be able to move a bike with 200kilos on it unless the ground is perfectly even.

There are plenty of vehicles that are better for moving around that much mass than a Cybertruck is but a bike isn't really one of them.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 0 points 8 months ago

Once you've got some speed it's easy to stay stable

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a cargo bike: Low centre of gravity, adequate transmission for hauling heavy loads uphill, moving it isn't the issue. You should be more worried about the actual load capacity: A good cargo bike, as in two wheels not four or a trailer configuration or something, usually maxes out at ~150kg load (including driver). Trikes about 250kg, quads or trikes with trailer at 500kg.

But then a kg of soil weighs more like 400g so we're talking more like 80kg. Including driver you might be exceeding load capacity, but not by much (assuming obese people don't ride bikes which I think is a fair assumption) it's probably going to survive, especially if you're careful around kerbstones and stuff. Those load limits are all calculated off some maximum drop distance, if you don't drop your wheels then you can generally go much higher. The frame is very unlikely to break or bend, the axles would probably be the first to fail.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It looks like these bikes are 100% human powered. That's the part I'm worried about.

I'm starting to get kind of old but I know how to ride a bike and I'm in pretty decent shape. In nice weather I ride for several miles at a time with my kids. I could move a heavily loaded bike for short distances but if I'm doing regular transportation with that for hours at a time I can forget about my knees.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The usual distances for these kinds of bikes are a couple of km max, once or twice a week. Big shopping trip if you're living on the outskirts kind of deal, or smaller shopping trip and the kid rides in the cargo bucket. If you're up for it sure you can also tour them, tent and sleeping bags don't tend to weigh much and there's ample of space.

Bikes for parcel deliveries etc. tend to be quads or trailer-trikes, also, electric. Noone is running a landscaping business with one of those bikes that still is, and probably always will be, a VW transporter with flatbed kind of deal.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

That makes a lot more sense. A bunch of groceries or other bulky but not that heavy stuff seems ideal. I could occasionally do some short trips with a bunch of soil as long as my regular trips had much lower weights.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Reframing it as 'the Cybertruck's so shitty that half the load will fit on a bike with no issues, and you don't have to be seen driving a Cybertruck' would probably work better 👍

I fully agree with this, but I have to say I think it's equivalently and succinctly encapsulated by "wankpanzer".

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People are so triggered by the cybertruck. I want one just for the pure entertainment value of triggering the fragile.

[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago

Literal "eats shit so other people have to smell your breath" mindset, lmao

[–] chimpo_the_chimp@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your comment alone is triggering people but im the same exact boat. My brother in law has it and mentioned that most of his interactions were actually really positive with just a few negative. MKBHD has said the same thing in his review.

I probably would have gone through with it if they managed to keep the original range that was promised, even with the price hike. 500 mi epa for an electric truck like that is crazy, but it got downgraded pretty hard.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I have a different Tesla right now and it’s awesome driving past gas guzzlers for free knowing how much it’s costing them to drive their smallpenismobiles around while I drive for free (yea, free charging still exists). I pay insurance and that’s it. Might need new tires next year.