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Libs and reactionaries will constantly bring up the Wagner group in response to having the existence of the Azovites pointed out to them. This counterargument strikes me as lazy and equivocating, but I've always had trouble responding to it.

What would people here recommend I say to this point? Assuming I say anything at all.

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[โ€“] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When someone starts to bring up Wagner Russonazis I know that I won't get anywhere with them in terms of the big picture of anti-imperialism. There's no real point in further discussion. Russiagate brainworms have been incredibly effective in this regard. Even if they admit that mercenaries are and always have been a part of war, they'll just change their tune to "Putin's personal Nazi PMC" if they haven't already.

You could also just respond with something about Blackwater, or the German military's Nazi infestation. Then they'll call whataboutism and the conversation will be over, but there wasn't any constructive dialog anyway and maybe some spectators (if it's not a private conversation) may turn on their brains a bit and look deeper.

[โ€“] NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Wagner group has a statue in Central African Republic partially dedicated to them. Try to ask libs to explain how the Wagner group is nazi if Africans consider them partners and equals.