Vegancirclejerk - the largest community of actual vegans on the internet! Ⓐ⚑Ⓥ
About us
"Veganism is a way of living that is just awesome, plus we totally get enough protein! Also, we totally get enough oral sex. Probably more than you, to be honest. Not bragging, just stating facts." - The Vegan Society
"They asked me to be careful and I was confused as to why, my b12 count has never been higher!" - John
"Dominion is horror filmmaking at its absolute finest." - IMDB"
Rules
- No meatflakes or meatflake Apologists
Absolutely under no circumstances are meatflakes allowed to freely participate in this community. Meatflakes/Carnists includes all persons who are not ethical vegans. We do not condone carnist coddling and hand-holding of any sort. This includes no advocating for animal deaths. The right to an animals life is non-negotiable. No advocating in favor of animal testing, death, or mass euthanasia.
- No Non-Leftists, Health and/or Environmental "Vegans"
Veganism is a leftist social justice movement for animal liberation. It is not a diet for your health and it is not for the human environment. This also, obviously, means No slurs/bigotry, Why would you even want to?
- No support of PBC
We do not condone or advocate for plant based capitalism. We will never support animal agriculture companies, or any business that exists to extract profit from vegans while funding animal exploitation. We are frustrated these businesses have infiltrated every vegan space and being represented online by ads for TVP and first world convenience food. We're not here to make food aisles bigger, this is about animal liberation. We have all had this convo already which leads us to rule 5
- No Debates/Serious Discussion
This is a community for memes for vegans and by vegans. There are lots of other places where you can have your debates.
- No Hero Worship, Influencers or Marketing
This is a community to jerk about veganism, not a place to promote your ego, new products, or embarrass yourself worshiping a YouTuber. If it is going to a good veganism related cause then message us and it will be approved at our discretion.
- No Meta Posting
Meta posting is usually very boring and not fit for a meme subreddit. I wish I could extend this to all the other vegan subreddits. If you really need to post meta about something with circlejerk in the name get a grip and delete your account
Carnivores aren't evil because they don't have a choice in the matter. They are acting on instinct and do not care for ethics. Humans have a choice and moral compass, yet still create unnecessary mass death for personal gain.
As a hypothetical, if lab-grown meat becomes viable and scalable, thus offering a 1:1 replacement for meat, wouldn't we be evil if we were to reject it just because it didn't come from a dead animal? If no, why not? If yes, how dissimilar does the meat replacement have to be before humans stop being evil?
I actually eat meat fairly regularly, I'm just curious what other people think about this.
Humans have a choice and moral compass, yet still create unnecessary mass death for personal gain.
We do. And yet that is not all we are. Should one aspect of what it means to be human being valued above the others? The elevation of critical thinking faculties to being the measure of a man is a very modern post Renaissance concept, one that is slowly losing traction thankfully
"That is not all we are" is not an excuse for unethical behavior. Recognizing the needless death of trillions of innocent, sentient beings is not a critical thinking exercise. It is something one willingly turns a blind eye to.
I get a choice in the matter and what that means is I can be wrong where the stupids can't. Great. Fuck you AND your free will.
Who said anything about inherently evil? First, evil is a very religiously loaded term, harm or suffering is a better one. And we can absolutely morally judge a behaviour without making sweeping moral judgements about the person or being doing the behaviour.
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lions don't have tofu and supermarkets
i hear what you're saying, but we're in 2024 now and large-scale veganism is definitely practical
@mojo_raisin @toxicbubble Did you knew they supplement farm animals with B12 and other vitamins and stuff?
Vegetarian and vegan diets have been around for thousands of years in parts of Asia, well before B12 supplements. Cultures sorted out the nutritional requirements through ingredients, and the lack of B12 in western vegan diets has more to do with common western ingredients than some inherent problem with a plant based diet.
I'm not even vegetarian or vegan, just annoyed with misconceptions about their feasibility.
Ancient and prehistoric peoples didn’t care about dogma, being “vegan”, that’s a modern thing.
That is why I was clear about the diets being around. Diets can exist without the dogma.
Vegetarian and vegan diets have been around for thousands of years in parts of Asia, well before B12 supplements.
Vegetarianism yes.... veganism I don't think that's really plausible.
I think this may come down to different cultures classifying what they consider to be meat.
For example if you go to Korea, it's really really simple to be a vegetarian and almost impossible to be a vegan. Most of your basic cooking spices are going to include things like dried krill powder. And if you asked the cook or waiter if there are meat or animal byproducts, they will tell you "no meat".
I don't understand your argument. I went vegan at age 51. Before I went vegan I was a meat eater and loved meat. I can honestly say I do not crave meat now.
I think it is just a case of developing your palette. It's like when some children don't like veggies but then grow to love them as part of the diet or cutting down on sugar.
Yeah, I mean if you look at how carcinogenic red meat is to humans, it's unlikely we ate all that much of it
but even so, just because we're adapted for something doesn't mean we should continue that behavior.
Lions have nutritional requirements that can't be met without meat or enough generations and pressures to evolve the ability to process what they need from plants.
That is a major difference between big cats and dogs, as dogs are omnivores and could make due without meat.
I wonder if there's any difference at all between a lion and a human in terms of reasoning. Like does a typical human have the capability to plan outcomes and make decisions based on expectations for the long term?
Evil is a societal definition. You're seeing the beginning of the definition change to include the suffering of animals. The only way it will take hold permanently is if humans end up more empathetic in the future. The current batch don't have it in them.
I've found companion planting works quite well for my garden, marigolds especially for keeping pests away.
Marigolds: my beloved
It's totally possible to garden without murdering tonnes of beings
We evolved to be able to eat a wide variety of foods. It's part of why humans have been so successful at adapting to different climates, and it's the reason we have a choice in our diets that other animals do not. If we can choose whether or not to eat animals, and if we choose to eat them purely because we like the taste better than the vegan alternatives, then we're placing a higher value on our own pleasure than the lives of these animals.
@Neon @nume bro with the taiwan flag talking about how the majority must be right. have you ever been to china? >90% of chinese would say taiwan is an integral part of china. do you think before you fucking type? also, you're forcing YOUR moral values onto animals, you pay for them to perpetually bred, raised, tormented, abused and slaughtered but vegans memeing online is """FORCING""" moral views onto others? jesus christ you're dense.
I love watching a post from a vegan community get enough traction that it starts hitting people's general feeds and carnists absolutely lose their goddamn minds in the comments🤌