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Apple expected to enter AI race with ambitions to overtake the early leaders (apnews.com)

submitted 2 years ago by FenrirIII@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[+] Stovetop@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Article says it’s likely an OpenAI partnership.

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then is this even a race?

[–] AliasAKA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Depends. If they get access to the code OpenAI is using, they could absolutely try to leapfrog them. They could also just be looking at ways to get near ChatGPT4 performance locally, on an iPhone. They’d need a lot of tricks, but succeeding there would be a pretty big win for Apple.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People are really racing to destroy the planet so their phone can make a crappy summary of what's on wikipedia.

[–] AliasAKA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not even a summary of what’s on Wikipedia, usually a summary of the top 5 SEO crap webpages for any given query.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Well yeah, but to be fair we now know exactly how much glue to put into our zesty pizza sauce.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

near ChatGPT4 performance locally, on an iPhone

Last I checked, iPhones don't have terabytes of RAM. Nothing that runs on a small battery powered device is ever going to be in the ballpark of ChatGPT. At least not in the foreseeable future.

[–] AliasAKA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

They don’t, but with quantization and distillation, as well as fancy use of fast ssd storage (they published a paper on this exact topic last year), you can get a really decent model to work on device. People are already doing this with things like OpenHermes and Mistral (given, 7B models, but I could easily see Apple doubling ram and optimizing models with the research paper I mentioned above, and getting 40B models running entirely locally). If the start of the network is good, a 40B model could take care of a vast majority of user Siri queries without ever reaching out to the server.

For what it’s worth, according to their wwdc note, they’re basically trying to do this.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But every apple user has assured me that iPhones are so much more secure and that apple isn't like mean ol Google and toooootally doesn't collect all the same data from you.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

They will also assure you that Apple totally doesn't not collaborate with the CCP and allows them full access to all Chinese users data.

Apple users like to assure people of many things. :)

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Apple user here. I can assure you, Apple sucks just as bad as MS and Google.

[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wowee, yet another LLM. I bet this one's going to be super different somehow.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Apple: “It’s the best LLM we’ve ever shipped. We think you’re gonna love it.”

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

It's just ChatGPT. Nothing is new here. Apple hasn't innovated anything truly new in over a decade. The closest you can get is their processors, and none of those are anything like the innovations they brought us 15-20 years ago.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 20 points 2 years ago

Can't wait for the Apple in a world first we present to you press event for AI.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago

StartUp: innovates

Big corpo: throws money

Somehow it always ends in centralization.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It's exciting, but in the hands of morons (executives).

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I'm actually worried about the next few years.

All it takes is for a deep learning algorithm to learn and perform menial tasks better than humans and that is it. Suddenly whole industries of workers could be made redundant, which would spike unemployment rates. We are not ready for that.

And before you say Universal Basic Income will save us, UBI is little more than a leftist pipe dream that would bankrupt any nation that tries to pursue it as an actual policy.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

AI peeps so insecure that they gotta attack crypto (vaguely). Despite its many problems. crypto is a viable alternative to the legacy system of stat currency that's literally creating war and destroying the planet. It's the only truly international currency. AI solves no such problem nearly as important.