/kbin meta

I don’t disagree - but just during this whole Ukraine / Russia thing I’ve found myself subscribing to some things where I’m likely to see footage from the field. To me this is just informational and in some ways important to see, despite the fact that it is difficult to take. Horrors of war and all that. That’s a normal part of my daily news consumption while someone in a dog costume getting railed in an elevator at a convention is uh… well it is what it is, and I don’t want it.

Seriously… there are so many things considered occasionally NSFW. Curse words, nudity, violence, suicide, even on Reddit anything tobacco related. I am personally very tolerant of all content, but I have lines with both gore and porn that I just don’t want the content mixed in with my casual browsing. I wish everyone would just take it to lemmynsfw so I could filter it appropriately, but due to relaxed instance rules even a generally tame instance like kbin.social constantly has new specific groups for me to ban. Just today it has beenfurry cartoon porn, feet, celebs…

Reddit never got this right either, but it seems like such an easy problem to solve. There’s R-rated and there’s porn. Not sure if it’s a result of people being too prude or too loosey goosey, but it seems very obvious to me.

Any kind of tag you use to convey "sensitive content that may be offensive" will always become a meme. That's how human nature works and history proves it over and over.

Examples abound. Skulls and cross bones, the nuclear / atomic symbol, X ratings becoming XXX tags in porno titles, Parental Advisory Explicit Content .... this list keeps going on the closer you look. If a symbol, or a meme, is used to denote a warning, it will be co-opted by a subset of folks who will use it in ironic fashion. NSFW tags, "trigger warning" - all of these in the end are doomed from the very start to, at least in part, fail and have the exact opposite effect.

There's an interesting problem for nuclear researchers these days: how do you label a thing as dangerous in such a way that societies in ten thousand years will still recognize what it means? Because some of the shit they're toying with will be. They gotta think about it. Like even today the image of a skull means something very different depending on the culture that image is from.

Remember when /all showed nsfw/porn threads? That was fun/scary/interesting. I’m not saying one way or another which is “better”, but ultimately having individual options might be best.

For me the issue is, I want to be able to set a filter on /all where the porn isn't rocking up but the combat footage etc is.

Perhaps in addition to allowing some communities to set themselves as NSFW by default, Kbin could also let communities set up tags that get automatically added to their posts? That way the porn ones could add #porn, the combat footage ones could add #gore, etc. "NSFW" would be a special tag that indicates that the contents should be blurred or otherwise hidden from accidental view, and the user could then decide whether they wanted to view it anyway based on the tags that were on it. Meanwhile something that was a perfectly innocent academic debate on the subject of porn could have the #porn tag but not the NSFW flag, and it'd be shown normally.

For everything else outside of gore and porn I like browsing with image previews enabled and “all” instead of “subscribed,” and I want to see things that at least on Reddit were forced to be marked as nsfw. Maybe in the Fediverse NSFW is only limited to those things and I can turn it off, which I have, but I do not want to miss content from medium-adult posts just because of my preference to not jerk at all times of day.

True. However, there is no reason adding a more nuanced tagging system would impact the ability to do that. You can still browse at work when you should be working, just check all the boxes first.

I, on the other hand, really like art. Sometimes that involves nudity, but it tends to be more incidental to the work and thus more tasteful than the internet's repository of porn gifs. I really like medical subs, which back on reddit expressed itself in following posted medical cases that were often fairly graphic.

I have no interest in seeing someone get spit roasted at really any point in my day, and there's so much more of it that it would be impossible to find much of anything else nsfw in hours of scrolling. I can't just block all the porn subs like I could on reddit, I've tried, there are more being made every day.

I don't think most people want to see what happens to your face when the shotgun doesn't kill you, either, when all they're trying to do is jerk off for a minute. At best, that's just gonna give someone a kink they can't talk about.

As it is now, m/all is a giant porn sub and I'm relegated ONLY to my subscriptions. If I turn the filter on to deal with the porn, I can no longer access my own subs. If I leave it off, it is everywhere and the sheer amount of it noticeably impacts my ability to even use m/all to find subs I may not have the terms to search or just never knew I wanted. Which destroys the point of having an All.

I think if we broke it down more, both sides would be served and no one would ever have to hear about it again

Because there are so many instances and so many communities across those instances that I can’t possibly subscribe to everything I want to see, it’s nice to view “all” while figuring out the groups I want to see. I’d miss a lot if I limited it to “subscribed.”

What are you, my parents in eighth grade? /s

Scrolling “all” for increased exposure it’s like… news article, kitty cat, meme, anti-Reddit post, GAPING HOLES, puppy…