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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 133 points 1 year ago (4 children)

To be fair, the physics that makes refrigeration work does feel like you're manipulating primal forces like a wizard

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are literally pumping hot outside.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While utilizing the physics of pressurized coolants that prefer to be gasses around your house.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 15 points 1 year ago

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

And you can reverse the process, pumping heat inside instead, even when it's freezing outside! Magic, I tell you.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Do not upset Maxwell's demon when you're down there sorting the cold atoms from the hot ones!

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[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 123 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's a tank of cold inside. Its the primary export of northern European countries and sustains nearly their entire economies since the only other thing they can "make" is fucking rotten fish. Its important to recycle your AC every 3 years before it runs out of cold by throwing it into the ocean where it can return to be made into glaciers.

[–] DataDisrupter@feddit.nl 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well, because you didn't add a /s to your comment, some day it will end up as an answer spewed out by some LLM, as absolutely factual.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 17 points 1 year ago

Let's hope people won't get so reliant on LLMs and so uncritical they follow through

[–] nawa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I see no downsides

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[–] Famko@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This anti-swedish sentiment makes you look like a Dane.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

That's impossible. Everyone knows that Danes can't communicate.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weirdly this is basically how refrigerators worked before refrigeration was invented.

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[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Turn it around to cool the outside. Global warning solved.

[–] Daefsdeda@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually a more efficient electric heater. This is known as an heat pump, aka reverse AC

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heat pump was one of the inventions I thought of in my childhood and was like "oh, it actually works and is good" as an adult.

Of course, the child version was along the lines of "what if we take fridge, put the cold end out and hot end in", but you see the point.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

So did engineers since decades. Just the fact that you get efficiency ratings of more than one in terms of primary energy input to heat energy provided should always have been a massive selling argument. If planned well you can get yearly averages of 400-500% energy output vs energy input.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seriously, that would have to work better than those giant fans they're building offshore.

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[–] snue@feddit.dk 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this video from 'technology connections' explains it quite well ^^

https://youtu.be/_-mBeYC2KGc

[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I love how mad he gets at single duct in room units too. Rightfully so.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Through the magic of the latent heat of vaporization

[–] sane@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i feel technologically connected right now

[–] salmoura@lemmy.eco.br 14 points 1 year ago

♫ thermodynamically smooth jazz ♫

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Heat pumps really are amazing tech. What if I tell you that this is also how your fridge works. Crazy, right?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (11 children)

They are also one of the few things that are more than 100% energy efficient.

300% to be exact. Because it uses some natural phenomena that just needs a little jump start and then can be maintained with little energy for massive air movement.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That efficiency metric doesn't really reflect what's going on. Of course moving stuff around is easier than heating it.

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[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some are as high as 510% efficient

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[–] Ruthalas 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shove the hot out the window. *taps head

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Literally how it works, too.

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[–] hyhachi@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it adds heat to the system to make more cold. duh. global warming solved. stupid enviromentards.

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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 25 points 1 year ago

The air is hot because it's moving around a bunch.

The air gets fanned over some coils filled with coolant.

The coolant gets heated and starts moving around a bunch causing it to move through the coil through some insulation foam to the outside half.

Once it nears the end of the loop it has to go through the compressor.

The compressor squishes the moving coolant and now it can't move around as much, all the heat gets dissipated into the surrounding outside air.

The compressor lets the cooled coolant go back through to the inside.

Process Repeats with diminishing returns.

Wizard_Fucking_Magic

[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok, but here's a real answer. Have you ever sprayed a can of hair spray or wd-40 and the can got cold? That's basically the same process.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Install a 12-pack of wd40 in my window, got it!

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Turn it upside down, first.

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[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh boy have i got a video you you anon!

https://youtu.be/7J52mDjZzto

It has an entire section at the start explaining how these magic cold boxes work to help with understanding their next evolution heatpump

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

ofc it's a technology connection video. Lemmy is the dude's biggest organized fan club

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[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"all of the sudden"

Disregard

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Wait until he finds out about refrigerators.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

ICP frequenting 4chan?

phase change refrigerant loops baby!

Technically it's a uni directional heat pump. But we're just abusing the basic laws of thermodynamics. Fluids when compressed, heat up, and when expanded, cool down. Compress it, it heats up, cool it down, and then expand it, and suddenly, boom sub ambient cooling has been achieved. (the phase change happens in between to maximize effectiveness/efficiency)

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a trick. It costs money.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

It turns money into cold. Transmutation.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah for whichever neighbor the extension cord is connected to

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Hot air goes out, cool air goes in. You can't explain that.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Physics, dog

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

LOL 😅...so you got a cup of coffee ☕, you wait, it gets cold 🥶....how is that even possible?!!!

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