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There are different opinions on Beehaw's registration process. I kind of see how some people would find it dissuasive, specially after most of us are coming from Reddit. But I still think it's very practical, at least for the time being.

Btw, this is only my opinion as a new user, I don't know any of the admins/mods. Link to my original comment.

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[–] grehund@beehaw.org 94 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Honestly, if you aren't prepared to fill out a simple text box to join the instance, I'd prefer you went somewhere else.

[–] plazmotech@beehaw.org 24 points 2 years ago

Right? If you can’t come up with a minimal answer to a very simple question, how could you possibly contribute positively in any way whatsoever here? And why would you even want to join this instance? This isn’t meant to be a shitposting low effort instance…

[–] eclipse@beehaw.org 19 points 2 years ago

Or if you're just going to lurk... you don't need to make an account at all! As I did for the first week before deciding on whether or not to join, lmao

[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I actually really liked it as an exercise in reflection.

I probably wrote too much in mine, a good full paragraph for each. They really just need to create the slightest barrier to entry to make moderating 10x easier.

[–] eclipse@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

They need to add a word limit though, I think I went a bit overboard lol

[–] fred@beehaw.org 38 points 2 years ago (16 children)

I didn’t think it was too bad. Like others I wrote 3 sentences or so basically just answering the questions honestly. I was approved fairly quickly.

[–] mizmoose@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago

I wrote a frikkin' essay. I wish I'd saved a copy because I was sure they were going to read it and file it under "whackadoodle: do not admit."

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[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

yeah I think a lot of people who haven't actually done it are misconstruing it as something far more than it was. I wrote 3 sentences for each but a commenter on another instance thought I needed to write "3 essays"

[–] eclipse@beehaw.org 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The way I see it, it doesn't take that much longer than writing a post or even a long comment. If a person isn't willing to take the time to do that, I wonder how much they were going to contribute to the community in the first place? lol

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

reminds me of the people who got pissed when we defederated from a few instances. I guess they're just angry that they don't have access to something other people do, even if they won't use it.

[–] retronautickz@beehaw.org 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're so accustomed to centralised social media that allows them to troll and bait without caring for the people in those platforms, that, when, they find instances here, like Beehaw, that do not want to have contact with people and instances that promote that type of attitude, they feel confused and betrayed.

They expected the fediverse, Lemmy, Beehaw to be a replacement for Reddit, not only as content/link/information aggregation platform, but as a place to continue acting like they acted on Reddit with no consideration or understanding that they aren't in Reddit anymore.

The fact that many are calling Beehaw admin/mod team "snobby" "snowflakes", etc just says it all

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The fact that many are calling Beehaw admin/mod team “snobby” “snowflakes”, etc just says it all

I even saw one that called them "oversensitive ninnies" and it was weird how they didn't make the connection as to why they defederated

[–] retronautickz@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

Honestly. Zero self-awareness.

[–] eclipse@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I saw this image and I was like... "Actually? Maybe that wouldn't be so bad"

[–] retronautickz@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That wouldn't be a bad idea for the time being. But images like this show that these people really don't understand how the fediverse work. They would die of shock if they ever saw how long (way longer than Beehaws) the list of defederated servers is in the mastodon instance I'm in

[–] eclipse@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

I hope they really don't think we can't just type the address of other instances on our browsers and see the content... if we choose to, that is.

[–] DarbyDear@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

What's really funny about this image is that the implication is that Beehaw mods are trying to keep us from seeing content from other instances, when they've said in multiple ways that 1) if you don't agree with the decision, you can go elsewhere, and 2) it's about keeping trolls from spamming up Beehaw, not preventing Beehaw members from venturing outside of the instance. I don't even know why people think Beehaw's admin/mod team cares at all about where it's users go beyond making sure they're not trolls trying to infiltrate. They're providing a free service where they're trying to build a community, not create an Orwellian dystopia where all thought is policed. If anything, mods here have been way more tolerant of dissenting voices than I've seen elsewhere as long as those voices are civil and not actively promoting bigotry/harm.

[–] Bowen@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder how much they were going to contribute to the community in the first place? lol

Pretty much that. They're not even hard questions to answer, you could even lie. But, the day or two wait period and general approval process means you weed out a lot of the undesirables who are looking for a quick way to upset and bully people. It's a good thing.

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[–] DarbyDear@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

I don't know why people can't be bothered to click the "register" button to see for themselves. I've spent more time writing each individual post I've made on Beehaw than I did the questions for registration. Granted, I also read all of the literature discussing the philosophy and goals of Beehaw beforehand and had the answers in my mind by the time I saw the questions, but it was really just a line or two per prompt. Basically the bare minimum of user vetting. Imagine my surprise when I see people talk about it like we were asked for an in-depth literary analysis of the themes behind "Great Expectations" and how they can be translated to the modern world.

[–] TranceReduction@beehaw.org 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So many people are just looking for something to complain about with Beehaw. Just go to another instance. It's not that hard! That's the beauty of the Fediverse!

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[–] retronautickz@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Beehaw's registration process is quite easy, asking you only to write a few words on why you want to join (which could just be "it seems like a nice instance"), in comparison to other registration processes I've seen and done.

I've been through registration process where to guarantee that you've read the rules and anything required would hide words in the post containing that essential content and then asked you questions of which the answers where those words. Sometimes with the addition on asking you why you wanted to join.

This (Beehaw's registration process) is nothing in comparison

[–] azureeight@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago

I come from a different point-of-view that I support the question portion, but I did find it hindered me slightly. Only because of my own anxiety, not because it's a bad idea.

I mostly wanted to reply how the handling of my application was really personable, in case anyone else is lurking and finds it intimidating, like I did for a week or two. It's not a college thesis and I imagine those running beehaw want more people to make the place more bustling.

I think the little question bit being there will lead to a better environment overall. I'm outing myself, but back in my roleplay forum days the ones with a bit of an application process had better quality engagement. Ymmv, of course.

[–] DracEULA@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

I don't get what all the fuss is about. I told them I don't like Nazis and was approved within minutes. It was not a complicated process.

[–] albatross@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hot take: its a bigger impact on those with anxiety disorders or other tendencies to rewrite things a million times when they are "important". I find it easy to post online because its cheap, but writing my beehaw paragraph definitely stirred up some "eeeek, I gotta say this right!!!" fears in me.

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[–] __chelsea__@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly, I was more frustrated with the spinner of doom that kept me from actually submitting my registration for a few days. That meant re-writing my response to that application question until I decided to just save it in notepad until I was able to get a registration form actually submitted.

The "interview" process itself makes total sense, and I'm happy to have even something so simple that helps keep some of the low-effort riff-raff out.

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[–] kalipike@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

@eclipse also as a new user coming from Reddit, I personally liked that they are screening new users. Super quick and easy to fill out.

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