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If Neuralink can prove its device is safe in humans, it would still potentially take more than a decade for the start-up to secure commercial use approval

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[–] GeekFTW@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As someone who likes the idea of transhumanism:

I'ma fuckin' pass, dog.

[–] Yewb@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Dude cant even get the software on teslas to work right and we are going to trust him with brain implants? Lol

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look how it went for monkey test subjects. 😳

[–] hoilst@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They were going to ask for volunteers from Musk's legions of loyal fans, but then they realised the subjects needed to have brains.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Just finished my first cuppa and had a nice and literal lol. Thanks for starting my day right!

[–] gus@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And what company would you currently trust to make brain implants?

[–] blomkalsgratin@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe the answer to that one to be "fucking not a-one", but that's just an educated guess of course.

[–] hoilst@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just love the assumption that we have to have brain implants (why? Because L. Ron Musk said so?)

[–] GreatBigJerk@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

I think it's the sci-fi fantasy of it. Like being able to download knowledge like the matrix.

In reality the real use of these is to help people with brain injuries or disabilities.

Elno wants to grift people on the former. Literally everything he does is selling people the knock off wish version of something from a sci-fi movie/book/game.

[–] Astigma@feddit.uk 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah same here, I'm much more curious about Valve's foray into BCIs. GabeN mentioned in an interview a few years ago that they're closer than we think and I want to know what he's cooking up.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Finally, Mecha GabeN is near.

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Immortal Mecha GabeN is the solution against enshittification in gaming.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

This is all you need to know from the article:

"On at least four occasions since 2019, Musk predicted that Neuralink would soon start human trials."

[–] gus@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Honestly I won't get one but I'm fine for Elon to break into it. I kinda feel like that's the only thing he does well. Funnels money into concepts people believe are impossible. Fail until there's some small success and let other, more competent people learn from those failures. I think I'd rather have that than stay stagnant and/or have the Russian brain chip become the standard

[–] KarsicKarl@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

My initial response was a recollection of the plot of The Kingsman.

Sticking implants in brains for fun is stupidity on a stick.

Implants are already used to control some forms of epilepsy, however these are on the vagus nerve and not in the brain. This sort of application makes sense.

[–] Singletona@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Given a descendant of this technology has the potential for seizure moderation, which is something my sister basically will need as the medication she uses will inevitably require doses that would destroy her liver or leave her all but vegetative. It's super interesting from a technical aspect and hyper-relevant.

However, given Musk's antics especially as of late? I wouldn't trust him to not accidentally intentionally kill people, or use it as a way to have an unremovable keylogger with the end goal of 'Oh those are some nice eyes you've got there,' or 'lovely able to live without going into convulsions isn't it? It'd be a shame if that changed.'

[–] torafugu@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

If someone offends him on Twitter and if they got a brain chip, it's the end of 'em.

Elon should be the first guinea pig, then, see if they can install a chip to make his brain work right

[–] Clairvoidance@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

given Tesla's trackrecord, paraplegics beware!
obviously other ways get less coverage because it's not as excitingly scifi as propping metal in your brain, but I think I would rather a CTRL-Labs armwrist even if it is owned by Facebook
if you're excited about this kind of stuff I would recommend reading more about OpenBCI, or y'know, anything that already has results within moving things with a thought.
I would sooner look to VR (as soon as we get commercial batteries that can keep up) to be the replacement 'second brain' for a computer if we're talking about the idea he once talked about accessing the internet from anywhere

If Neuralink can prove its device is safe in humans, it would still take several years, potentially more than a decade, for the start-up to secure commercial use clearance, experts earlier told Reuters. The company is also competing with other neurotech companies which have already implanted their devices in people.

like idk journalists should stop talking about Neuralink, all it does is risk stocks related to Musk go up, though this one is soberingly skeptical.

[–] YolkBrushWork402@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

This is gonna end up terrible, why the hell would you want chip in your brain?

[–] FiskFisk33@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'mma call it right here, shot will go south, quickly, people will end up in prison, and Musk will somehow not be one of them.

i give it max a year or two after the first implant before we read about trials starting in the headlines.

[–] AttackBunny@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, it didn't go well for the monkeys. Maybe if they are fucking people up, someone will stop them, but I doubt it.

[–] End0fLine@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the part of this story that I remember. It went so well with the monkeys so now they get to try on humans?

[–] AttackBunny@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure everything you need to understand the answer to your questions can be summed up in two words. Elon Musk.

[–] Untitled9999@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is completely dystopian.

As others have said, Elon should test this on himself before he tests it on others, if he's really so confident in it.

It is inevitable that this will have negative health effects, and when that happens, Elon will just wipe his hands and say "not my problem".

[–] RyanHakurei@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Yeah the left doesn't have any room to talk, at all:

  • Holodomor
  • Great Leap "Forward"
  • Xinjiang/Uyghur Genocide
  • Khmer Rouge
  • Tiananmen Square
  • Fidel Castro's Cuba
  • Stalin's USSR

Many such regimes which were also oppressive of the poor, foreign, ethnic minorities, and neurodivergent. I am sure you will simp for and/or deny every single one of them, though, as you leftists always do.

The left will never be deserving of the benefits of the contract, they've killed more people in the 20th century than all forms of cancer, many major diseases, smoking (bundled into the cancer point somewhat), all forms of accidents, etc

Source

[–] BaconIsAVeg@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's pretty funny to see someone in the wild who actually thinks because those were Communist countries, the persons in charge must have been 'Leftists'.

And damn those Leftists down in North Carolina, Kentucky, and Tennessee for growing all that tobacco using slave labor and then lobbying the government for the right to sell their product even though they knew it killed people!

115 comments and -320 karma. Stay woke guy, you'll get em next time for sure.

[–] RyanHakurei@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lol caring about fake internet points is peak Reddit. Oh, and wow 13 comments and -14 hurr hurr ur internet number is negative too.

[–] californiarepublik@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is 'the left' in the room with us now?

[–] RyanHakurei@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are the "nazis, alt-right, conservatives, etc" in the room with us now? Lol, go back to Reddit.

[–] californiarepublik@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

Wait who brought them up now?

[–] CarrierLost@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Singletona@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Dude's political flambaiting. Flag and move on.

[–] RyanHakurei@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's with the attempted gaslighting? Also are you saying that mass death doesn't anger you even in the slightest? Or is it that you're ok with mass death committed by your side?

[–] CarrierLost@lemmy.one 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

First, I wasn’t aware I was on a side.

Second, there’s no attempt at gaslighting. I’m asking why you’re angry. I think it’s because I’m confused what any of this has to do with brain chips. Maybe it’s a post in the wrong thread?

So, in short, I’m just asking you for the reason you’ve posted this, in an attempt to better understand why I’m seeing this where I’m seeing it.

[–] Killakomodo@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They must have one of the chips installed already and it's already misfunctioning, Makes the most sense to me.

[–] LChitman@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Sounds like their chip is part of a botnet

[–] millions@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] torafugu@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Probably a troll account.

[–] sapient_cogbag 2 points 2 years ago

The fact that you think "The Left" is some kind of unified bloc, and furthermore that a government calling themselves leftist actually implies they are leftist, illustrates your poor understanding of the topic.

Yes, Lemmy has tankies. No, I don't think you could reasonably class tankies and people who defend those kinds of things as meaningfully leftist.

Furthermore, attributing these mass killings and/or genocides (which are horrific, to be very clear) to a vague and highly questionable "Leftism™" while refusing to attribute the millions of deaths due to preventable hunger, colonialism, Irish Famine, Bengal Famine, the way the US handles migrants and invades countries, etc. to capitalism and the organisational/governmental approaches it encourages is a clear and transparent attempt to smear leftism as a whole because of the actions of States that were essentially a slightly different form of capitalism that happened to use the aesthetic of leftism while maintaining the worker/owner relations and hierarchies associated with capitalism, but with owners being various State entities rather than individual investors.

More importantly, I'm very confused at why on earth this is on this thread at all ;p

[–] Clairvoidance@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm still curious what this has to do with neuralink brain chips

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