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Feels like something my wife and I signed up for ages ago and haven't seen a penny. Not that I find it at all surprising, but it feels like it got pretty close to actually happening...

If you aren't from the US, how was your higher education experience?

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[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I live in Canada so this is my student loan experience: sign up and fill out documents for provincial student loans, received an amount that covered tuition plus a little bit of rent for the years (until graduation), and then had zero interest on the loans for the duration of the pandemic.

In 10 years if I still haven’t paid everything off, the debt will be absolved.

[–] EthanolParty@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

In 10 years if I still haven’t paid everything off, the debt will be absolved.

brb going back in my time machine and convincing my parents to move to Canada before I was born

[–] GandalfDG@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

sighs in American

[–] ABoxOfNeurons@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] nostalgicgamerz@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Biden already said that it’s ending, regardless of the SCOTUS decision

[–] Realtrain@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

That's the loan payments pause, not the forgiveness program

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

this is what happens when you vote for biden. he pretends to support leftist policies to win your vote, and then immediately backstabs you and avoids doing what he promised. we're still waiting on $2k checks as well.

[–] exohuman@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Biden has been fighting for it. The Republicans have been hard against it and pushing back. It’s going to the courts now.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

except he hasn't. at most he said something about 10k being cancelled, not student debt entirely. meaning many people will still have plenty of debt even if biden's thing passes.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

meaning many people will still have plenty of debt even if biden’s thing passes.

this is literally a case of you preferring perfect over good actually being done, to the detriment of everyone. while i would also prefer total cancellation, for a majority of debt-holders, up to $20k in forgiveness would wipe out their student loan debt.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

to put it another way: a much more constructive way of considering this policy, in my view, is to frame it as "this is good... and we can make it better", not to downplay how substantial even this cutoff point is for a huge number of people. it's not Bad Actually because we're only ending student loan debt for like 50% of borrowers and not 100%!

[–] GandalfDG@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If there were a progressive candidate in the general election I would've voted for them 🤷 Believe me I didn't vote for Biden with much hope for anything changing for the better in the country.

[–] hihusio@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

as if a progressive president would have been able to do more than biden. they'd be obstructed the same by republicans and scotus, if not more

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

green party exists. also you could've voted for someone other than biden in the primary.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

if you're actually interested in making political change and you don't like Democrats, possibly the worst alternative avenue you can channel that through is the Greens. the Greens, and i cannot stress this enough, are not a serious left-wing alternative, and you cannot make them be one by protest voting. they aren't even on the same page as to what "left" means--there is a principled ecosocialist wing, but also a massive crank wing that pollutes the party--and most of their state parties are completely atrophied. your time is almost certainly better spent joining an actual socialist organization like Socialist Alternative or DSA, or just foregoing electoral action entirely. look up how to organize your workplace, or volunteer with Food Not Bombs if you're interested in the second half.