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[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 83 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Some mistakes make you want the person responsible fired, but some mistakes are SO bad that you actually feel sorry for them instead. This falls into the second category.

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 65 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's because a flaw like this is the result of SYSTEMATIC failure, not any one person. Who reviewed these designs? Who was responsible for usability testing? Who reviewed those plans? Was usability testing even performed?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Was usability testing even performed?

If it was, it wasn't tested with every cable type or they would have discovered this issue.

[–] waspentalive@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

Some places don't fire unless the issue is repeated, client-facing, or willfully dangerous (like assaulting co-workers). The theory is: This is the first time this has happened - we learned from it, the engineer specifically probably learned from it. This won't happen again.

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 79 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Is that the engineers fault? Or is that the people who are supposed to check for usability after the engineer is done designing the functional aspects? Because it's not usually an engineer's job to do this...

Basic product testing is the foundation of manufacturing, an error like this doesn't get all the way through production and it still be just the engineers fault.

[–] Beanerrr@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Checking for usability is one of the key parts of design iteration, which is done by product engineers. Source: am product engineer

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Former mechanical design engineer checking in as well: can confirm, the engineer's fault here.

You don't just design it just to work, a hobbyist can do that.

Edit: Not saying I have never made a mistake, everyone makes mistakes. And of course in a proper (especially big) design department someone always cross checks your work, so there must've been multiple people to blame. But mistakes happen and that alone is no reason to fire someone.

In my first job a senior told me that you will experience making an expensive mistake and that it'll be a good lesson (I did).

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They probably reused a PCB from another model that used a paperclip hole reset. They duplicated the design, sent it for testing, and came back with "everything is great, but make the reset a push button before you ship it." Engineering probably said "ok. But it will need to go back for usability testing" and sales said "fuck that, send it"

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

Or another possibility, after proto and lots of testing: "we need to move test button a couple of cm to the right, away from the corner. No further tests needed"

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

That seems highly plausible to me

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes it is the engineers fault, but even then there should have been multiple people that should have caught such an issue along the way.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As an engineer, I agree.

You cannot be a layer of security if your attitude is, "this is someone else's problem".

The swiss cheese model of security is what I go by. Yes, no one is perfect, but that's precisely why every single person needs to actually give a damn. (and why people should be paid enough to care) The more layers of protection from catastrophe, the better.

Giving in because others are involved is literally Bystander Effect-ing your job effectiveness. Only idiots should be OK with, "this is someone else's fault."

No, this is also other peoples' fault, but make no mistake: the engineer is on that list.

[–] crimroy@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago

Probably both, but you're right, there's definitely a qa problem here

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's very strange engineer, if he doesn't aware of RJ45 connector form-factors.

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hey I'm not absolving the engineer for not doing basic interference checks but I'm saying it's also somebody else's job I'm sure, Cisco's not a small company.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's the point of mentioning that it's someone else job too?

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's the point of putting it all on the engineer?

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Who's putting it all on the engineer?

[–] napalminjello@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It literally says "at least you're not the Cisco design engineer..."

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

And? It showcases engineer fault, but how do it shift all blame to him?

[–] Random_user@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds exactly like something an engineer would say.

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

Engineer-adjacent haha

[–] gatelike@feddit.de 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

did they change careers after that? I would want to work on a farm and touch grass every day with my new friends, the animals.

[–] nkiruanaya@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] AgnosticMammal@pawb.social 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Exclamation mark denotes the community, so:

!crappydesign@sh.itjust.works

!assholedesign@lemmy.ml

!assholedesign@lemmy.world

!crappydesign@zerobytes.monster

The @ is the username indicator, so you've pinged people whose usernames are those for the instance.

[–] Phazei@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is one of those double edged sword things with Lemmy, since there's so many places a community can be, they all end up being a little smaller. There's got to be a better solution for that. Maybe when creating a community there should be a way to automatically search a large portion of committed all at once and display it to the user.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

What's needed is the ability to create and share 'meta' communities. A group of smaller communities can then loosely appear as a single larger community. Users can still drill down to the individual sub comunities, if they choose to. A little bit like a recursive federation.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This reminds me of Macintosh computers from the late '80s/early '90s. The disk drive had no physical eject button and the power button for the computer was a big knob sticking out right below the disk drive. Coming from the PC world, it took me a couple of days to learn to stop turning off the computer every time I tried to eject the disk.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh yeah the "hilarious" obligation to drag the floppy to the trashcan to eject it.

So intuitive...

[–] TheSealStartedIt@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Til.. Sounds actually hilarious

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah maybe it was but it sure wasn't intuitive!

Is it going to erase my floppy? No just eject it...

[–] EpicFailGuy@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago
[–] H2207@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Ofc it's Cisco

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

that's how you reset a product line

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 7 points 2 years ago

Was there a recall? I remember them sending out an advisory of the default behavior (and how to disable it), then changing the default behavior in software.

[–] dap@lemmy.onlylans.io 4 points 2 years ago

I actually, legitimately, laughed out loud at this one 🤣