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[–] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They're already tracking you. We are all on a watch list. I'm sorry.

[–] Pointtwogo@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But my parents would know about this. They're strongly anti-communist.

[–] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh sorry, I glossed over this post, as your links didn't work, it was very late at night, and I was drunk.

But yes, I see now that you're a minor, and the US is planning on enforcing censorship on free thinking minors. This is bad. This is very bad. And I will join you in urging our American comrades to try to do something about this.

[–] Pointtwogo@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago

ikr. Idk what to do.

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, you're already being tracked through many forms as the other user pointed out. But if your worry is your parents, on a cursory glance I see nothing that would require notifying your them for engaging with "harmful" content. It mostly places the burdens on the platforms to either ban that content or you, as notifying every single child on the internet seems like a huge hassle. I could be wrong though. (Please fix your links if you can)

Now if you want some advice, you can always get some free VPN like protonVPN to a foreign country and generally avoid attaching your real life identity to your "harmful" online activities. Tor is also pretty nice too, I guess. Nothing is really 100% "safe" and you're always at some risk, but this doesn't seem like the end of the world for your individual case.

The bill is still the usual 4-letter acronym rubbish the USA has been peddling to wreck the internet since it went mainstream. Somebody should revoke their internet license, "Reverse Great Firewall" style.

[–] Effort0499@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

The NSA considers readers of the Linux Journal as extremists. 🤡

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

oh I remember looking at this bill and being mildly horrified. it's going to destroy online queer communities by requiring them to collect ID data. I think if this passes, hexbear (which operates from the US if I'm not mistaken) will be exposed to law enforcement issues because doxxing ourselves to the website is a non-starter.

[–] McCainRBGcreampie@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looks like hexbear is hosted in France and lemmygrad is hosted in Norway

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

good to hear. might still be issues with serving US citizens, a la the GDPR and EU citizens. no clue if it will be enforced that way.

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don’t quite understand what it means even after looking into it. Doesn’t it prevent certain things from being show to minors?

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the bill is intentionally vague. it's left up to state attorneys general to decide what that means and it requires websites to collect id data to verify age. several conservative politicians have bragged that they're going to use this bill to go after online queer communities. and the Biden admin and DNC generally support the bill so it's likely to pass.

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Ah, I see. I think age verification isn’t a bad thing if it were being used to ensure kid’s can’t see sexually explicit things and lie about their age but leaving it vague is definitely a bad thing if it will be used to attack LGBT groups.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The "Think of the Children!" excuse has been used by homophobes as an excuse to persecute them as long as there have been homophobes.

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, I understand. Of course we should protect children from unsavory content but I certainly don’t trust homophobes to be the ones deciding how that is done

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Exactly. Anytime the US gov tries to announce that they are doing something to "protect the children" 9/10 times it's just an excuse to persecute or punish non cis-white people.

[–] redsteel@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah I think the SESTA and FOSTA shit went down the same way, written up by the usual clueless skeletons in DC and only ended up pissing off a fuckton of internet users while accomplishing nothing. I'm not in the targeted demographic for this latest turn of the surveillance vice but I hope for you and everyone affected that it gets shot down in flames.

btw you need to edit your links, the target URL for all of them is currently the post itself.

[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

The explanations in several of your links are confusing and don't seem to really get to the issue. I mean they mention it but not the how the bill might cause the issue.

Here's a good write-up: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/congress-amended-kosa-its-still-censorship-bill

[–] NormalC@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

US just realized that they wanted the Great Firewall that the CPC implemented but already spent their propaganda bucks and have a relatively terrible IT infrastructure.

CPC is going to end up to be more free (in terms of IT capabilities) than a majority of Western nations at this rate.