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[–] smallerdemon@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 years ago

Wow, yeah, private markets solve all problems. Brilliant. Also, what's Santa bringing you this year? I hope you got great eggs from the Easter bunny! Do you occasionally knock out a tooth to leave for the fairy?

[–] temptest@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lemmy has had a huge bias towards seize-the-means-of-production socialism from day 1, which is very important in understanding why it's different from other reddit clones, and why it has unique features and anti-features. The political orientation is not incidental, it's vital, and I'm glad to see it hasn't completely died from the sudden influx of reddit-natives when the API thing happened.

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Me saying a market regulated by an uncorrupt government can generate wealth for many and generate a middle class.

Okay I know people might hate me for saying this, but isn't this just modern day China? Think about it:

  • While the government is definitely not uncorrupt and has many problems with corruption, Xi has introduced many corruption purges, and billionaires in China have actually faced legal consequences up to the death penalty. When is the last time a billionaire in the west actually faced legal consequences? (Just to be clear I am not pro death penalty, just illustrating a point).

  • China introduced markets with Deng and they are regulated by the government. Though this one is controversial among the left (quite a few Maoists think China could have achieved the same or even better results without the introduction of markets to the point it was done in the 80s and 90s).

  • China has generated wealth for many to the point they likely have the largest middle class on the planet in terms of sheer numbers, and in quality of life indicators such as average life expectancy, China has overtaken the US. They also achieved the largest poverty alleviation campaign in modern history.

This is not to say that China is a perfect country with a spotless human rights record or anything like that, it's to say that we can learn from what they've achieved and take our blinders off. And it's pretty ironic that your meme lines up with that in certain aspects.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's weird. It's almost like educated people skew left. So very weird...

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