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Thread update: Prigozhin's fucking dead.

rip-bozo


The BRICS summit will begin on Tuesday and end on Thursday, with various world leaders, politicians, and representatives meeting in Johannesburg, South Africa.

America's anxiety about the summit has been obvious. They have been complicating the event by pushing for the arrest warrant for Putin to be upheld if he steps foot in the country. While this is a remarkably dangerous and unhinged thing to do - even by America's standards - to the leader of a nuclear superpower who could end the world within an hour, it does betray their desperation. Unfortunately, for those of us who wanted to see Putin surrounded by an army of security guards fending off people holding handcuffs, he has sent his Foreign Minister, Lavrov, in his place. Additionally, America has likely been spreading rumors about the lack of interest in gaining new members in the organization.

With apparently 20 countries formally seeking membership and another 20 informally doing so, the bloc has been elevated, whether they like it or not, to the position of the international vanguard of the non-western world. It is extremely important to say that this is not the same as it becoming an anti-American bloc, and many of them (including original members Brazil and India) wish to keep a friendly relationship with the United States. Nonetheless, with the United States' policy of "if you are not with us, you are against us," and as the US seeks to weaken China, in coming years many of them might find themselves under hostile pressure.

BRICS has to try and solve many problems if they are going to chip away at America's stranglehold of the world economy. These problems - like mitigating the dollar's status as a global reserve currency, and America's dominant role in the world economy - are extremely complicated, and will takes years, even decades, to be overcome. Therefore, one should temper their expectations and excitement for this summit. It took tens of millions of deaths in cataclysmic wars, and then several more decades, for America to reach its current position. I see no reason to believe why its downfall will be any less bloody and elongated.

To end on a less depressing note, I've been searching for appropriate anagrams given the list of countries that seek to join BRICS. Obviously not all of them will make it in, but even so. The best I've come up with is HIBISCUS EMANCIPATES BBBBKKRVV.

(also, "bulletins and news discussion" can be rearranged to "libidinous newsstands uncles".)


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

This week's first update is here in the comments.

This week's second update is here in the comments.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (5 children)

https://archive.is/XLtCI

Unarchived link

business insider opinion: Russia's ruthless minefields aren't just handcuffing Western tanks. Each day the war drags on the mines get more buried — and are likely to haunt Ukraine for many years to come. By Kelsey Vlamis

Take-aways, there's apparently enough ordinance to mine Florida from state border to beaches in Ukraine on the front lines, businesse Insider actually admits - buried halfway through the article - Ukraine signed the anti-personell mines ban treaty but is violating it, and the West still only cares about post-war victims of landmines and unexploded ordnance (UXO) when they're white as evidence of how many countries thatve been in America's crosshairs are still to this day dealing with the horrors of war inflicted on them by America.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Surovikin has been relieved of his post as Chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces. General Viktor Afzalov has been appointed interim commander-in-chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

I'm unsure if this means that Surovikin is now only in charge of the War in Ukraine, or if he was also relieved from that position.

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[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Prigo: SHOIGU MUST GO!!!

Shoigu: Who must go?

Prigo:

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yevgeny Prigozhin died - source Readovka

rip-bozo

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[–] meth_dragon@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (13 children)

why is japan releasing the nuke water? how expensive could it be to have a thousandish metric tons of bad water just sitting around?

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[–] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago

In my opinion, both sides should simply stop shooting at each other. It is way more effort to aim and fire a weapon than it is not to, so it would make more sense for everyone to lay down their arms.

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wish that BRICS countries remove VISA restrictions for each other so that I could finally move to China.

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[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The national spokesperson for the ANC, Gwede Mantashe made the "bootstraps" argument in response to the high levels of poverty in South Africa.

:stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:

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[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No more half measures Walter because I'm fucking dead

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[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Got to say, I called Prigo getting killed by Russia a couple months back. Not that it was that hard to predict, but there were a lot of doubters who thought Putin wouldn't do it. The absolute mad lad did it.

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[–] Othello@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Posted Chapter 2 of The Wretched of the Earth discussion post in the theory comm. Still plenty of time to get in on this guys, Its a very important book! we had a great discussion last week, love yall!

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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

A Bell Boeing MV-22B Osprey carrying 20 U.S. Marines during a Training Mission in Australia has reportedly Crashed off the Coast of Darwin near Tiwi Island; a Massive Search-and-Reacue Operation is ongoing involving multiple Ships and Aircraft from the Royal Australian and U.S. Navy, 3 Survivors have reportedly been Discovered near the Site with at least 1 in Critical Condition, however a number of Marines are still Unaccounted for.

they lose one of these every year ...

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[–] RaynDanger@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

And to the fading of Western power, the Texas acceleration has been proposed again! https://hexbear.net/post/400827 *tiny edit for spelling

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[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Are we 100% sure Prigozhin didn't pull a Bain on that plane and executed his body double?

"They expect one of us in the wreckage brother!"

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Passenger list:

Propustin Sergey

Makaryan Evgeniy

Totmin Alexander

Chekalov Valeriy

Utkin Dmitry

Matuseev Nikolay

Prigozhin Evgeniy

Crew members:

Levshin Aleksei, commander;

Karimov Rustam, co-pilot;

Raspopova Kristina, flight attendant.


Still only 8 bodies confirmed.

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[–] SisuMarx@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I know it was you, Pringles

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Vijay Prashad on BRICS & Why Global South Cooperation Is Key to Dismantling Unjust World Order

Also Brics+ name suggestions please:

me start : The Triple A Union - (Asia , America Africa)

Edit: "Non- European Union !!!! "

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[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

It’s no wonder why the right wing in America despise this guy. He’s a true leader. He speaks for the people, not to them. He speaks from his heart. He is trying to build up his country with cooperation and commitment to and from his country, not trying to break it down and break away. He seeks to unify, not divide. He’s cleaning up corruption, not fostering it. He has true command presence, no need to take it and pretend to be a tough guy. He shows up on the front line for his troops, he doesn’t disparage them. He’s been a joy to watch and grow into a truly historical figure.

E: thank you for the Gold

Real comment on Zelenskyy seen on reddit-logo. He did visit the front once and took photos with the troops as well, unfortunately one of the soldiers was wearing a black sun patch sooo...

Also I don't know what kind of "historical figure" Zelenskyy is going to be, I know they're trying to take this uncharismatic guy and turn him into a colossal figure that stood alone for Europe against the Putinist Hordes (real nazi moment), but he just doesn't make it. Churchill was a despicable imperialist pig, but at least he had some charisma, an extensive political life and memorable speeches/quotes. This guy? Not even there, and I used the Churchill example because libs love to compare the two. I know they're trying to Great Man Theory this guy and it'll be an amazing failure. Outside of the International Community (TM), Zelenskyy is known as the guy that appears everywhere, says some hollow shit and is the President of Ukraine.. and that's it. Putin, on the other hand, is well known and even liked in the Global South, if anything, it'll be Putin who'll grow into an historical figure lmao.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

Looks like the state thinks things might get ugly?

[–] DoghouseCharlie@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think we really are missing a trick by not pretending we're the center. What, conservatives? Yeah, I hate em! Buy I hate liberals too. Ever heard of horseshoe theory? Well they're on either end but I'm in the middle!

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (5 children)

According to Norwegian government-controlled broadcaster NRK, Norway is going to donate an as of yet undisclosed number of F-16's to Ukraine.

In other Norwegian aviation news a Russian MiG-31 had to be scrambled to intercept a Norwegian military aircraft approaching Russian airspace over the Barents sea. A similar incident happened yesterday.

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[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

I go into the field for ONE SHIFT and fuckin pringles is ded. Fuck this, i'm gonna quit my job and stare at the news.

[–] notceps@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

FOLKS THE CORRUPT CRONIES IN THE INTERNET AETHER ARE TRYING TO KEEP ME FROM MY RIGHTFOUL POSITION IT'S TIME DO DEMAND THEY START THE PIN!!!!!!!! trump-moist

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[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

One of you shit stirrers can go and bait the fed libs with this thanks to r/sino.

Homeless in CHINA? How will the SEESEEPEE tankies respond to this? Something something communism just means everyone living on the same big homeless tent! frothingfash or so-true I guess, who knows the difference these days.

reality in case you don't want to click r*****

Its Taipei, Taiwan, there is a station at the end with the name.

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