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### About Community Tracking and helping #redditmigration to Kbin and the Fediverse. Say hello to the decentralized and open future. To see latest reeddit blackout info, see here: https://reddark.untone.uk/

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 15 points 2 years ago (23 children)

Tbh everyone just needs to leave reddit

Let the bots take over

It's always been Stormfront 2.0 anyway

Fuck reddit

[–] minnieo@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes, at this point, there is really no fucking saving it or hoping for changes, they will go as far as they need to go to get their profits back up. It must be abandoned. The only time I ever spend on reddit is to convince people to migrate to kbin or lemmy (nicely, dont be annoying)

[–] OtakuAltair@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I find that a large majority of redditors are still somehow completely clueless about what's happening.

So I made this little formatted summary of events inviting confused redditors to lemmy/kbin if anyone wants to copy/paste; seems to get people to understand.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, the majority will not care. Reddit's app ranks first in iOS' app store after Twitter. This is what Reddit wants, people to stop using third-party apps so that they can easily target ads to users.

[–] OtakuAltair@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Even a small portion of users switching to Lemmy/kbin (like us) will mean more competition in the long run.

Specially with great looking ios apps like Artemis in the works that you could easily recommend

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[–] ILeftReddit@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@OtakuAltair At this point I don't care about redittors or reddit. It can go on to be wildly successful, doesn't matter to me, I've moved on.

[–] OtakuAltair@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Alot of us wouldn't be on here either if it wasn't explained to us; I think the confused people deserve at least an explanation too

[–] AmidFuror@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Username checks out?

[–] gk98s@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I had no idea lemmy was a thing until r/piracy. More big subs need to switch

[–] OtakuAltair@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

And more people to copy/paste summaries like that! People can't switch if they don't know.

[–] Dreckard@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What really worked for me was the https://sub.rehab website. When I found that, it made me realize I need to stick with the people who actually built the subs I love -- the mods. Here I am.

[–] Whirlgirl9@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

this is great! thank you!

[–] zd@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My issue with all of this is everything is scattered all over the place now. Many of my followed reddit subs are on lemmy and then some are on other platforms and it's too much to keep track of. So my followed content is going to drop off a lot in general - I refuse to sign up for Lemmy. The name alone annoys me.

[–] minnieo@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

as long as they move to federated sites, its fine, you can access them all from kbin as usual. but if they decide to make their own site, or go somewhere centralized (ew) then yea, not much we can do abt that

[–] IninewCrow@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Also ... Reddit is a private business where people were allowed to come in to chat and talk ... don't act surprised when the owners and managers change their minds for whatever reason and decide to kick you out.

It's the company's space, like the lobby of a shopping mall ... people are freely allowed to come in, sit down and chat .. don't be surprised if the owners of the mall decide one day that they no longer like you any more and bring security in to escort you out.

You have no rights or privileges on a private social media site ... you have temporary permissions .. and those can be changed, disregarded, forgotten or done away with at the discretion of the owners at any time for any reason.

LEAVE REDDIT ... you're on someone else's lawn and they don't like you any more.

[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@LinkOpensChest_wav

@minnieo

It's always been Stormfront 2.0 anyway

Exception taken.

Don't get me wrong: it has been an absolute dogshit downward spiral for at least the last five years, but what it has become bares almost no resemblance to what it was 15 years ago - or even 8 years ago.

It had great potential and utility. All of it squandered via some of the worst decisions possible. Each of which ignored the current user base in favor of a quick buck.

It needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot.

Echoing: Fuck Reddit.

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[–] zd@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Stormfront 2.0? lol what?

[–] Harry@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I just deleted my reddit account. Fuck that bs.

[–] zeda@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Yep, finally using this site lol. Admins have gone full dictator over there.

So we get a boost and upvote here eh? Neat

[–] ErraticDragon@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

You know how there are posts all over Reddit (and even all over here) saying "what's with the porn on r/interestingasfuck?" or "I don't know what's going on with John Oliver"?

It's because of them that the "protests" must continue. Raising awareness is the point. Only a small percentage even know what's going on.

Reddit would love for everyone to quietly go away, they'll pretend nothing happened and move on with a small chunk of users missing but still growing.

[–] 52fighters@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I could see some disgruntled users intentionally trolling and spamming the subs just to trash it in revenge for what Reddit is doing to them.

[–] MementoMori_@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

did you see that one guy’s hairy butthole? lmao

[–] victron@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm eager to see how reddit becomes a steaming turd after June 30th, that imbecile is gonna end up with nothing of value in his hands. Let's see where that profit comes from then

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[–] okbin@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

they won't

i tried to move my 100k subscriber sub to kbin (i also offered two different chatrooms)

6 came to kbin and people started attacking me for having the sub closed (one person even resorted to transphobia like jesus fucking christ) and being "political" and one person even made their own version of my subreddit

moving is too much work (it's actually not that much work, but since we now need two videos playing at the same time and can only watch those vids for 30 seconds, everything is "too much work"). that's why people are still on facebook, twitter, instagram, and tiktok.

i'm very glad there's an acceptable amount of activity on the "threadiverse" right now... but i just don't have hope that everyone will leave.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think your post demonstrates that it's a good thing everyone won't be coming here.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Right. Who wants to have a community full of those kinds of people.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure what the skill issue is on that sub, but I, a moron, had no more trouble coming here than I did navigating reddit

Those are either bootlickers or bots, who can safely be disregarded

74% of reddit were ignorant assholes anyway, so no loss

@okbin@kbin.social it’s ok, people will gradually move out as Reddit deteriorates. Eventually most interesting people will be elsewhere, the platform will still exist but it will be an empty shell.
The important thing is for threadiverse to take flight and acquire a sustainable size, the rest will happen in time.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ironically this API issue will kill bots, which was needed.

[–] Yewb@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It will only slow them temporarily you don't need api for bots

[–] troybot@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Correct. Now the bots will be constantly scraping the pages of every post which will be a much bigger burden on their servers.

[–] Skray@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

It's funny, years ago websites switched to openly available APIs specifically to lessen server burden because of bots. Now they're swapping away from APIs because of bots, but those bots are just gonna go back to scraping.

[–] Yewb@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Exactly spez forgot why they needed an api

Sounds like Reddit has a skill issue.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, it'll only kill the useful ones in the long run.

[–] CoderKat@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah. The unethical bots will just use scrapers, as they already do for the many websites that don't offer APIs. They're already violating ToS, so they don't care. Ethical ones won't have that option (at least not past the fairly low quota).

[–] ErraticDragon@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

From my understanding, they already aren't using the API.

If the spam bots were using the API, then Reddit would have been able to shut them down trivially. Part of logging in via API requires a "client ID" that uniquely identifies the creator of the app/bot being used.

They could theoretically have each bot account create its own client ID, but even that would be a pretty obvious thing to look for.

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[–] slin@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

The entire r/MildlyInteresting mod has just been REINSTATED - again without any communication or explanation

https://reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14etdf8/the_entire_rmildlyinteresting_mod_has_just_been/

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This morning's news about the r/mildlyinteresting team being reinstated and unsuspended by a different admin - that's confirmation that there's internal conflict going on. Protests don't work, my ass.

[–] MorksEgg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It would be nice to see some some of the admins go rogue also. I know it's a lot to ask for people to sacrifice their jobs but some people still have ethics. And some people are in a positions where they can leave their job and pick up another one within hours or days if they're in the demanding field.

[–] lwgrs@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GO DM MODS OF YOUR FAVORITE SUBREDDITS AND POLITELY ASK ABOUT MIGRATION!

Please don't do this. I'm a moderator of a sub (won't say which one). From a personal standpoint I'm happy to use both platforms. Vilify me if you will. But I do not want to see messages from users asking if we're going to migrate. That's pestering and it won't go well if that particular subreddit isn't into it.

[–] minnieo@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

How else do you suggest bringing migration to their attention? I am a mod as well, I cannot see how someone politely asking if we are thinking about making a community on a diff platform can be perceived as pestering? It appears this is individual and not every mod will be annoyed and not every mod wont be annoyed.

edit: 10 people suggesting it to mods says "this is in higher demand than we thought, not just one random person's suggestion that we can ignore, we need to consider taking action or addressing this" Which is how changes happen. mods need to listen to their users, thats the responsibility they volunteered to take on. As a commenter said below me: "If you are getting annoyed because so many of your users want to migrate, maybe you should consider migrating instead of demonizing your users?"

[–] Noodleneedles@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Hilariously, a subreddit that I mod, with less than 700 subscribers and like, 4 slightly active users (3 of whom are mods), just got the threatening modmail. We only went private as a gesture of solidarity, there's maybe one post a week so it's not exactly a bustling community. I'd made the sub public for about an hour every couple of days in an effort to avoid this sort of thing, guess it didn't work.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have to add though that the form of protest proposed by that mod team is pathetic.

"only YOUR pictures of suggestive vegetables, must still be OC"

Either shut the sub down or burn that shit down by turning it into a porn sub. This little "we're gonna be creative, we're gonna allow suggestive vegetables!" mischief is pathetic af.

[–] kokoapadoa@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean the fact it was a pathetic protest method and and admins still shot it down speaks leagues about how much they care about their users. I don't say this word lightly: the admins are snowflakes.

[–] skogens_ro@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Marking the sub as nsfw affects their ad revenue, that's is the only reason they care.

Doing stuff like posting pictures of suggestive veg or John Oliver seems like a way for mods to protest without driving as many users away.

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