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More than a dozen former Ronald Reagan staff members have joined dozens of other Republican figures endorsing the Democratic nominee and vice-president, Kamala Harris, saying their support was “less about supporting the Democratic party and more about our resounding support for democracy”.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 45 points 8 months ago (18 children)
[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (11 children)

They’re trying to reach conservatives that don’t support Trump.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 21 points 8 months ago (3 children)

They're alienating people who hate Reagan.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (15 children)

Are they? The campaign is not speaking in support of the Reagan administration. Harris is supported by the former administration over a corrupt and narcissistic megalomaniac.

Personally, I don’t see this as anything other than validation that Trump is that bad.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you get endorsed by Hitler it reflects pretty badly on you.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (22 children)

Putin endorsed Biden, and now Harris. Do you honestly think that he wants Democrats in charge during his invasion of Ukraine? Politics is a game.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Right, his endorsement doesn't help. That's my point? Liberals shouldn't be cheering because Reaganites endorsed Harris.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Who said Liberals were cheering? This is aimed at disenfranchised conservatives.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Do you think conservatives read The Guardian? This is for internal consumption, to make liberals think "wow even Reaganites are on our side, we must be doing something right!"

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I read it as the neoliberal warhawks are enthusiastic about a more level-headed maintainer of Empire who has promised the most lethal military in the world and to always support Israel.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, the President does more than determine support for Israel.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Yep, but the part that specifically draws the Reaganite fascists to Kamala is her promise to maintain the most lethal military in the world. Forever wars and endless profits for the MIC, endless support for Imperialism.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Having read about Hitler's meeting with the military heads that line was bonechilling when she said it

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

What are they going to do about it?

Please say campaign for electoral reform in their respective states.

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I saw someone theorizing that this helps Republicans down ballot. They give the Dems the presidency, but having more Republicans showing up to vote helps house/senate/whatever local elections swing Republican.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Very spicy take: This helps Donald Trump because it reinforces the idea that Donald Trump is not colluding with the uniparty establishment.

Liberal protection clause: I do not support Donald Trump.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Surely if we go right one more time the mythical moderate republicans will reveal themselves and vote us. Just one more genocide, we got this

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[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Even the bloodsucking ghouls prefer Harris, what a timeline

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is not the good timeline

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago (15 children)

Hey, the US Empire is weakening every day. This is looking to be the good timeline eventually.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

We're on a tight schedule though, can the decades happen already

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

I hope, given the mass terrorist attack on Hezzbollah just now.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Life doesnt last forever and you can get a vasectomy so your kids do not suffer this planet. It's what's best for them.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In a letter...former Reagan aides and appointees...said they believed that, if alive today, Reagan would have supported Harris.

Reagan was a fascist ghoul. Cheney is a fascist ghoul.

If you think the trump admin was worse than the reagan or bush admins I'm sorry but you lost me. The dems clearly have no place for anti-war leftists theyd rather court bloodthirsty right wing monsters.

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[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 months ago

People are imagining this like (if you'd forgive the analogy) Dragon Ball Z, where Vegeta is the big villain and we all need to rally around defeating him, but then an even bigger and more evil villain appears, Frieza, so now we team up with the still-evil Vegeta because he's more good than Frieza.

That's not what this is. This is Reaganites tipping their hand that they and the democrats are fundamentally on the same team, they are all part of the neoliberal establishment, and Trump, in his instability, is rocking the boat.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago

Blue conservatives.

[–] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Democrats are the new Republicans.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 11 points 8 months ago

The enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm amazed that people are offended when someone they dislike chooses to vote against Trump. I understand the concerns about a "uni party", the military industrial complex, Israel, etc., but can we please agree that Trump needs to stay out of the White House?

Think of it as a Venn diagram. It's OK to agree that Trump is bad.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

These Republicans are not known for caring about Democracy.

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[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We can see how this is bad right. This is just like proof that the Dems today are what RONALD REAGAN was? Like ... this is a thing we can all see, and by Harris not publicly donouncing these endorsements along with Cheney's there is a problem... like an obviousl problem? we all see this right?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dems in 1990 were what Reagan was.

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[–] HowMany@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Cheney and bush and reagan's helpers and ... actually ALL of these scoundrels, curmudgeons and assholes - their endorsement of Mrs. Harris after the crimes they pulled and the mayhem they put in motion - fuck them and their endorsements. It's like having john wayne gacy supporting democrats - who wants or cares what that loathsome cretin chimes in about?

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