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The Kids Online Safety Act is Still A Huge Danger to Our Rights Online. (www.eff.org)

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The Kids Online Safety Act is Still A Huge Danger to Our Rights Online.::Congress has resurrected the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA), a bill that would increase surveillance and restrict access to information in the name of protecting children online. KOSA was introduced in 2022 but failed to gain traction, and today its authors, Sens. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) and...

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[–] EricHill78@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What ever happened to parental responsibility?

[–] Zeron@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Nothing. Policy makers are just using their "think of the children" defense to constantly push more and more overreaching policy.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We gave up on parental responsibility when deregulation, deunionization and Reaganomics forced all adults into the workforce.

Now that we've driven families to dysfunction, even CWS is underbudgeted with an impacted caseload. So they'll let child abuse slide so long as the kid's not infested with lice and scabies.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago

This is so tragic but actually makes sense. happens all around the world as well.

[–] Aagje_D_Vogel@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago

That's in the hands of the schools now. /s

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 2 years ago

Until we have free (tax-paid¹) school lunches and comprehensive child healthcare, until our kids are not commonly impoverished and skipping meals, I don't buy into protect the children bills. The federal government wants to protect plutocrats and the established hierarchy, and has not two fucks to rub together to give regarding US children.

¹ Our taxes also pay for fields of unused tanks, laser planes, and active camouflage development all of which cost way more than comprensive child welfare programs ever could. And thats before we get into fossil fuel and automotive industry subsidizes. The federal government already is spending grocery money on Funko POP and pogs.

[–] demlet@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Save the puppies and kids!

[–] skymtf@pricefield.org 13 points 2 years ago

Whenever the feds say "protect the children" I know they are lying. This bill is dangerous and a danger to multiple communities. If it passes ID checks will become a thing, and guess what. ID checks will likely use Web Environment Integrity to verify if your OS is "secure" before allowing you to scan your ID. This bill is a fuck you to adults, Linux users, and queer people!

[+] MrHand@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We live in the era of brute internet censorship. For example, I identify with incels and all their spaces were "shut down." DHS set up honeypot forums in their place. Yet when incels were being out and out censored across the web, no one said anything. The excuse was "fighting domestic extremism." They'll come after the rest of the internet until "they" can always have narrative control.

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not that I agree with much of "incel culture", so to say, but you're right about censorship. The whole idea of freedom of speech is that people should be free to express their thoughts even when we disagree with them.

As long as it doesn't become harassment or inciting violence... there are limits after all, but I do believe both the left and the right are pushing more and more censorship, they just disagree in what should be censored.

[–] MrHand@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When I posted on the web forum incels.is, to my surprise and shock I learned that it was a DHS operation. The feds there themselves encourage extremist rhetoric. Just imagine how unfair this is. They haven't publicly announced that they are censoring incels but have in fact done so. They then set up honeypot forums where feds larp as incels and feed the public image of incels as one of extremism and violence. A user ends up there thinking this is what incel culture is and then gets subject to being put on a watchlist. It's the government itself calling for censorship and restrictions on free speech, something I know all too well given my incels.is (run by DHS) experience.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Man, who are you kidding? I've seen incel culture in its infancy like a decade ago on 4chan and it has always been extremist.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

You forgot to include the part where you claim government agents rented the apartment above and next to you and then used sound devices to deprive you of sleep until you lost your job.

[–] MrHand@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yes, my schizo mind thought it was under "intrusive monitoring" under the "Countering Violent Extremism" program aimed at domestic dissidents. My schizo mind reached the conclusion that feds -- in order to better monitor me -- rented apartments next to mine. What a preposterous thing to believe, only a schizo would think feds would do that.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago

Hey I never called you anything, but it's quite the logical leap to believe that the federal government is spending millions of dollars to monitor you 24/7 and mess with you mentally/physically for leaving some innocuous comments online. If they're doing that to you, then they must be doing it to everyone else that commented on these forums, no? Wouldn't that require tens of thousands of people dedicated to doing nothing else but that? Do any agencies even employ that many people (in addition to the people doing their regular job duties)?

My intention here is nothing more than to help you see this from an outside perspective and reason your way through the situation.

[–] MrHand@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That did happen. Could be just schizo though. Feds would never be so hateful.