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[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 112 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I always forget VS Code is a different thing to VS.

Don't scare me like that.

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 61 points 2 years ago (2 children)

*different thing to VS for Mac, because Microsoft had to give three entirely different products the same name.

[–] monk@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

VS for Mac was really just a renamed Xamarin Studio too.

[–] Trivial@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Which is a continuation of MonoDevelop.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Oh wow I had no idea haha

[–] catalyst@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Same jeez this headline scared me!

[–] TheManuz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Dammit, me too!

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Is this supposed to give me confidence in .Net MAU?

[–] loics2@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well at this point, don't trust any framework Microsoft pushes. They told everyone UWP was the future for Windows after WPF, then stopped for WinUI and the app SDK...

[–] gk99@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

The problem with UWP is that nobody liked or wanted it, so obviously it died. Developers got locked into a walled garden, Xbox users saw no benefit (until recently with emulators, but I digress), Windows phone users practically didn't exist to build apps for, and PC gamers got the real short end of the stick with everything becoming a buggy, locked-down, performance-hampering, feature-lacking mess.

Outside of letting Microsoft half-ass port some Xbox titles to PC, it was pretty much useless.

[–] Spyros@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

I have started using Avalonia, and even though I am still learning, I am very satisfied with it. There are growing pains obviously, but as you said, I have no confidence in Microsoft UI frameworks.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

MAUI is an open source project that's a part of the .NET Foundation. One would hope that instills a bit more confidence, but I have yet to see any projects actually using it. Regardless, it's forkable and permissively licensed (MIT), so the lifetime is theoretically indefinite.

[–] charlybones@programming.dev 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In my previous company I used VS for Mac, it wasn’t a great experience… but it was better than nothing. Then along came a Rider license…

The tooling for VS Code might have improved, but Rider is the IDE of choice… even on windows.

[–] catfish@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What are the benefits of Rider over CLion?

[–] Matthew@programming.dev 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Rider is for C# development.

[–] starman@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And F#, don't forget F# :)

[–] Matthew@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

Why shouldn't I forget F#? Everyone else does. :')

[–] catfish@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It's pushed by Jetbrains as a C++ IDE for Unreal developers. https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/rider-unreal/

[–] revs@feddit.uk 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not surprised after the the main VS Mac developer left MS a few months ago.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago

I'm not surprised lol.

At my workplace I occasionally do work on an AutoCAD lisp add-in, half the time I don't know what I'm doing when something isn't quite working right 😭

My manager is tempted to drop support because none of us really know what we're doing with it... the original dev is long gone and none of us know LISP

[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Darn. I was really hoping it would improve.

I guess I can just use VS Code for now. And maybe use Rider in the future.

[–] TheBestAdmin@social.pluto.lat 2 points 2 years ago

How long did it survive?

[–] cybervoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They should just port the standard VS or finally work on bootcamp for ARM.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You can run an insider preview version of Windows on Apple Silicon Macs (can't boot yet, but you can run it in a VM).