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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I feel like he could've been a little more explicit, his advice is pretty generic.

Like c'mon Bernie, it's time to start publicly advocating for mutual aid, for strikes, for coops, for building structures that are outside of the political system. Give people some details to latch onto!

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Prof. Timothy Snyder's books "On Tyranny" and "On Freedom" provide some ideas. The first one might be more relevant now that trump won, but second one talks about how oligarchs are stealing wealth from us and how they now use technology for their advantage including social media.

There are also interviews on YouTube with him.

Edit: apparently he also has a substack: https://snyder.substack.com/

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Build your "structure outside the political system" and wait until the first discussion where someone wants to impact someone else. Boom, it's a political system again! Can't have a few hundred million people without various governments forming, de facto or explicit. And frankly the idea of a society without any kind of regulatory bodies is a nightmare.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

By political system, I mean the current electoral system (to be clear, I advocate voting for the lesser evil/harm reduction).

Personally, I'd advocate a new form of horizontal, decentralized form of power instead of one big one that is easily corruptable.

There's nothing preventing regulatory bodies from being formed, nor the ability to have conflict resolution. If you're curious to see the sorta thing I'm imaging happening in reality, I'd recommend taking a look at Catalonia during the Spanish Civil war, and more currently, Rojava (though I don't fully agree with everything, I think its a big step in the right direction).

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE as long as the super rich exist. No matter what small improvements are made, as long as they're around they'll find a way to fuck it up in order to enrich themselves.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] whithom@discuss.online 3 points 6 months ago

Thoughts and prayers.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 6 months ago

Tl;Dr, became an enemy of the state instead