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[–] OutrageousUmpire@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Good to see, but as with all posts like this, it’s important to note that the really important number is “Active Users” That number has gone up significantly as well, just not as fast as number of accounts.

[–] JeffCraig@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Yeah this is a good point.

It took me months to actually start using Lemmy and Mastodon. I would consider myself a tech savvy person and it still took a while getting used too. I think there need to be better tutorials linked on the sign-up pages that help people understand the basic concepts. That would help drive true user acquisition.

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[–] cities@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

some of us might be lurkers and are just here for reading

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[–] CoderKat@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

You gotta stop counting total users. Only active users should be counted. We know there's utterly massive numbers of bots being created. Plus people have multiple accounts from trying out different instances even if they'll only use one.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

True. I've created at least 4, myself.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People love vanity metrics, though.

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[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

But the bot + duplicate account numbers keep going up and I really like exponential growth

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

wow! look at those bots go! go speed racer!

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Just wait until Apollo/RIF/etc actually go dark!

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[–] noodles@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

(Lemmy.world) server:

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Daily active users is a much more reliable statistic due to bots


Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

[–] Zamboniman@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Yup, came here to say that as well. it's al bots. The active users graph is much more realistic.

And I've been seeing some...odd looking.... comments recently from users at instances known for being mostly bots. Some of these comments really look AI generated, and have a suspicious number of upvotes.

[–] hschen@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah theres no way lemmy instances that were struggling to scale 2 weeks ago with a few thousand users active are supporting 2.5mill suddenly

[–] LDClaudius@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Man, so much has changed. Glad I made the switch to Lemmy.

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[–] CodeMonkeyDance@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

First post, post-Reddit 🥴

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[–] Discoslugs@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Are any of these accounts bots?

Or maybe how many of these accounts are bots?

Are they all bots?

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

Around 95% accounts are bots. Around 90% if we are positive and assume that a lot of redditors joined since the bot farming started.

[–] Discoslugs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Thats seems bad. I know some bots are hepful. But 1 million bots seems like they for something nefariously.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Like trying to keep people on reddit?

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[–] realbaconator@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah I just found out about this project/the fediverse, been looking for several weeks for the best replacement to Reddit and this is by far the most promising. Also, as a self-hosting enthusiast, I'm liking this place more and more by the minute. With any luck increased visibility will continue to push activity & content. Power to the people.

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[–] LokyinN@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (7 children)
[–] gnarly@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My spez comic got over 1.5mil views advertising Lemmy yesterday and at least #12 on r/all so I'm hopeful they're not all bots too :P

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[–] caephi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i've only been on the platform for a few days but i've noticed a decent uptick in content and unique posts. probably still a lot of bots but with a decent surge of users and people getting a handle on the platform there's been a good bit of activity.

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[–] ohellidk@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

good to see but hope the bots can be purged at some point.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

It shows 50,000 active users per day compared to 2,500,000 total users per day. Most of the difference, presumably, is dormant bot accounts. If they were all activated and started posting one day, they could probably bring the network down.

I'm confused though by the active comments per day being about 100 times the active users per day. Surely users are not commenting 100 times per day on average. Is there something wrong with how the comments are being counted?

The posts count also looks a bit odd, since it means active users are making more than 10 posts a day on average. That seems implausibly high.

[–] Machinist3359@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

“average user posts 100 times per day" actualy just statistical error. average user posts 0 times per day. Feddi Georg, who lives in cave & posts over 10,000 each day, is an outlier adn should not have been counted

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That and some of the active users are also bots. Lemmit.online is a good example; that community is set up to harvest content from Reddit via RSS and then Bots post it into the community. Other users (including bots) can then cross post it to other parts of the Threadiverse. "Lemmit.Online Bot" has made 20.1k posts in 7 days.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are also hyperactive comment bots out there too.

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[–] Waitwuhtt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] maess@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] forkball@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Mom's forgetty

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Huzzah!

And now that I’m in the beta for Limbo / Liftoff, I’m loving it. The web experience was not great for me on mobile.

Servers still seem slow though. Posting a comment is slow. Loading images is slow. But I’m not going to complain about that when this kind of explosive growth is happening. Keeping things up at all is impressive.

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[–] slashzero@hakbox.social 5 points 2 years ago

There was a pretty big jump in active instances, too!

Active daily user count is about 50k.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Very nice to see this for Lemmy.

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