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Joe Biden regrets having pulled out of this year’s presidential race and believes he would have defeated Donald Trump in last month’s election – despite negative poll indications, White House sources have said.

The US president has reportedly also said he made a mistake in choosing Merrick Garland as attorney general – reflecting that Garland, a former US appeals court judge, was slow to prosecute Donald Trump for his role in the 6 January 2021 insurrection while presiding over a justice department that aggressively prosecuted Biden’s son Hunter.

Harris’s ascent to the top of the ticket led to a surge of enthusiasm and improved poll numbers but ultimately ended in a decisive electoral college and popular vote defeat.

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[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No neoliberal will ever acknowledge or admit they are as much to blame for fascism as the rest of the right.

They will continue sowing the seeds for fascism until they are consumed by it.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 54 points 6 months ago

No he wouldn’t

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Let’s see…

He barely won in 2020.

He fucked around in Gaza.

Fucked around with civil rights, voting rights,

Failed to do anything to actually stop trump.

Was polling significantly worse than he was in 2020z

It took him most of his four years in office to even realize that people were struggling financially despite all the good numbers.

Meanwhile, trump was running around shoring up his support for 4 years.

If Biden actually thinks he could have won he’s a dumbfuck that needed to retire.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I also think it'd be dumb for Biden to have stayed in the race but in retrospect he's the most progressive president we've had in my lifetime (I was born during Reagan's administration).

The response to the genocide in Gaza, in particular, was a huge political misstep - in terms of party popularity it seems to have been more costly than the Iraq War.

Biden did a lot of other shit especially investments in tech and manufacturing that are already paying huge dividends. It's actually astonishing he managed to get a high precision TSMC plant in AZ due to the existential threat that may cause to Taiwan and greenlighting plant reconstruction through the NRC may be a godsend if we're able to start fighting climate change again in 2028 (America may still be dumb as shit though).

It'll take some time to really measure how these investments will fully mature but as much as I hate him for not rejecting genocide he has otherwise been the least shit president I've ever lived under.

[–] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Both poverty and homelessness skyrocketed under the 'most progressive president since FDR™'

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

You're not wrong - though that's been happening pretty much across the globe. Late stage capitalism is a bitch and the squeeze is hitting everyone.

I want to clarify that I don't think Biden was a fantastic president or anything - he was just better than I'd initially expected and the least worse in recent history (if you ignore his response to the genocide in Gaza)

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

He was great for the country and corporations. He was shit for the people. He forgot who actually votes until all he could do was try to gaslight us about a split recovery.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

While he does technically clear the low bar of most progressive from himself, Obama, and Clinton, I have to point out that the spotlight issue you present here for the most progressive president is corporate subsidies for national defense purposes.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

They’ve been planning that plant since Obama. Don’t attribute that to a Biden.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I don't think he would have won. I do however think that because he quit he put a lot of doubt in the Democratic Party. And the voters may have gone the other way based purely on that.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He woulda lost for sure. He'll be bitter in his old age, but that's fine. He was on the wrong side of many issues throughout history, so I don't feel the least bit bad for him.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not so sure. He's white and male.

And very old.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] activ8r@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't "JOVER" make more sense?

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 4 points 6 months ago

It’s an existing meme, I believe originally from right wing dumbf*ks but nicely fitting for this occasion. He had 4 years to make something out of it, he didn’t do bad at all but this is a bit of a silly statement.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can every American politician over the retirement age please kindly fuck off?

Best I can do is the youngest senate president pro tempore in over 50 years. She's 74. That's Patty Murray by the by, she's who would become president if they make Musk speaker of the house and they botch the handoff. It wouldn't happen but it's funny to think that America could get it's first Woman president by a few men's incompetence.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

[ x ] Doubt.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 20 points 6 months ago (6 children)

the only way biden could ever dream to defeat trump is with some extrajudicial violence. and that is very obviously never happening.

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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 19 points 6 months ago

Buddy, you barely fuckin beat him when all the COVID deaths he caused were still fresh in the American minds. Biden won 2020 because he was "anyone else," but his dementia-addled mind has convinced himself that he's a heroic champion of the people who beat back fascism with his incredible intellect. All of the statistical evidence the public has access to predicted a catastrophic Biden loss, but I guess the lesson the DNC has learned from 2024 is that they should give up on objective reality as well.

[–] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago

Old senile man who's own campaign never showed internal polling he would beat Trump says what?

Jesus tapdancing christ, Biden, you absolute wilted cabbage.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Highly doubtful.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Shut up you dumb old twat. Get the fuck out of the way.

Sad to see his brain health not improving without the stress of election season.

[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 4 points 6 months ago

Is it me, or is he going more senile with every new day?

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Pardon my French, but Fuck you, joe. This isn’t helpful.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, don't let rich donors run your party. Their cold feet cost us the country. My worry from the beginning of that whole episode was that they underestimated the number of voters who just would not vote for a black woman, period. They would rather get raped by an old white man than helped by a black woman.

This all would have been discovered if they did a proper primary. Instead rich donors at the top of the Democratic organization decided that they knew what was best, and that they didn't need the voters.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm not sure he'd win but Kamala didn't have a chance.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Brother he had less of a chance than Kamala, if anything he should have dropped sooner

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Kamala had a lot of enthusiasm behind her when she took over the campaign. Then she squandered all of it by hiring the same hacks who lost to Trump in 2016. If she hadn't sidelined Walz, or ignored the Uncommitted movement, or ran on the kind of left-wing economic message that won in 2020, she might have had a chance.

Biden, however, had no chance. Even if he had reversed course on Gaza and adopted left-wing economic populism, he was doomed from the moment he walked on that debate stage. Everyone was worried that he was old and senile, and it turns out they were right. Nothing was going to make the American people vote for him after that became public.