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Is it just me or is Starfield kinda meh? (lemm.ee)

submitted 2 years ago by Stillhart@lemm.ee to c/starfield@lemmy.zip

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater. I actually was really excited for the game. But so far I am just not having fun.

For a little bit of reference, I just finished playing thru Cyberpunk 2077 and then jumped right into Starfield. Maybe that was a mistake because I kinda just want to go back to Cyberpunk (and I will in a few weeks when the DLC comes out).

But I'm noticing two really big issues with Starfield: first, the gunplay/combat is... let's call it underwhelming. I realize it's quite probably a skill issue and I need to just git gud, but holy crap, everything is a bullet sponge and I don't have that many bullets! Stealth seems to be pretty worthless at early levels as I don't have any high-alpha guns that can take advantage of it and, most of the time, I'm detected before I even see the bad guys. I'm just not enjoying this aspect of the game at all.

The second big issue for me is that there's a loading screen every five seconds! Again, probably a me thing, but OMG, it's driving me nuts. Get into ship, loading screen. Launch from planet, loading screen. Fly to next planet, loading screen. Land on planet, loading screen. Leave ship, loading screen. I just want to go shoot things! Let me shoot things!

Okay, found some spacers, time to... oh shit, out of ammo. Let me swap to a worse gun that still has ammo. Sigh. Okay, they're dead. Let me just heal up... oh shit, out of med packs. Sigh.

Oh and wrestling with the UI is exhausting.

Anyways, I realize that this probably isn't the place to find a lot of like-minded people. But I really do want to like this game. Any tips on maybe at least ways to make the combat less of a chore?

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[–] TheRoarer@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I could forgive bethesda games because I used to be able to look at them as "greater than the sum of its parts"

Fallout 4 with mods just barely got away with it.

Starfield has too many issues for me.

The biggest one, your second issue of loading screens, I don't think mods can fix. There just will never be a seamless overworld because of the spaceship mechanic.

[–] Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We have Open cities so I think there will be a similar mod for starfield that help reduce the amount of loadingscreens

[–] TheRoarer@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

I would absolutely love to enter planets after grav jumping just by flying down. I'm just having trouble imagining it happening.

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[–] blazera@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I still dont really know what the selling points are. In the lead up to release i was waiting to see what was gonna make it exciting. Never seemed to happen. Just clinical sci-fi.

[–] Cyncit@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For less loading screens: fromthe surface of planet on foot, open you quest menu and place the cursor of your quest. On PC press R to planned your trip. Press X to travel and Bam! There's a loading screen and Bam! you are on the surface of the other planet on foot. without other loading screen or ship animation. If you are already in space, you can't escape some of those loading screen.

The other points: I feel you... ennemies are sponges. I carry way too many weapons to ensure to have bullets. Stealth is meh until you invest points in it. Ennemies were seeing me near the ceiling through a vent grid -_-.

Hope it helps, I had tons of fun with Cyberpunk! I wish an amazing DLC!

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

So, the ship is a superfluous mechanic they shouldn't have bothered with?

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[–] Dylan@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago

Loading screens are really the biggest negative for me. And navigating the menus takes some time.

I really enjoyed Fallout 4. And it feels pretty close to that for me with MUCH better gunplay. I can feel this being a time sink for me once i can actually get my teeth sunk in to it.

[–] Quentinp@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Wasn't quite sure at first, but I kinda knew what to expect from a BethRPG - slowly grew on me and now i'm pretty into it. About 22 hours in and I feel like i'm getting thru most of the main quest. Seen some cool stuff, and I guess there's a NG+ so i'll probably push thru the main plot and then go a bit slower in the next game.

Wish you could traverse planets a bit faster, it can be a bit tedious. Felt like too much fast travel at first, but once you embrace it, it does move things along. (Wouldn't want to play with a HDD and not an SSD) Gunplay isn't bad. The companions are annoying and seemingly turn into stalkers lol.

[–] Bloobish@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

I'm holding back till more mods start coming out to improve it like all other bethesda games

[–] rgb3x3@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

I have a recommendation for running out of ammo and health packs: spend the time searching everything. There are boxes of ammo everywhere to the point that I've never gotten close to worrying about running out.

Yes, it's tedious, yes, it's probably not great gameplay to have to spend so much time searching rooms, but it helps you not run out of ammo.

[–] quinkin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm a social pariah for not even enjoying old Bethesda rpg games. So much loot fatigue.

[–] JohnnyLX91@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

I truly dont understand the "everything is a bullet sponge" argument.

I havent skilled any combat related skills and I am doing just fine in combat. Also I dont expect enemies in an RPG to get down in a single shot. Especially when they are armored like tanks or some weird giant alien creature. People have weird expectations tbh.

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[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

there doesn’t seem to be a lot of narrative freedom in the quests

I've been playing more since I originally posted this and I'm enjoying myself more but the game still feels pretty meh. But this point above I think is the biggest sin the game commits. It's an RPG but it doesn't really feel like my decisions effect anything other than my companion's view of me. I don't think there are branching storylines or anything like that.

Hate to do it, but gonna compare to Cyberpunk again. In Cyberpunk, there are multiple ways to solve quests and multiple endings with multiple endings! BG3, of course, also has branching quests that effect the state of the world. The lack of a feeling of agency in this game feels like the biggest fault.

I can get used to the loading screens EVERYWHERE (a loading screen to enter a tiny store? really??), the weak gunplay, the watered down mechanics and wide but shallow world. But this game is an RPG first and if the RPG mechanics are bad, what is left??

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