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[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
  • Die in a few weeks? No
  • Get more users than reddit? No
  • Be a place in the long run for privacy minded people to escape corporatism and have discussions about any topic? Yes
[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Let's be real, most of the growth of Reddit over the last 5 or so years haven't been the type of folks generating good content and discussion anyway. Even if Lemmy gets like 1% of the userbase this place is going to thrive.

[–] suspecm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A large majority of the content posted there seems to be from bot accounts. No matter what you think Reddit's active userbase is, it is heavily inflated.

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[–] Vaggumon@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It was here before the Reddit implosion, will be after. Question is, will you be?

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[–] sota2077@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

This place has existed for a lot longer than the last month.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy was here before Reddit and it’ll be around for a long time.

[–] HorseFD@lemmy.buzz 5 points 2 years ago

Presumably you mean Lemmy was here before the recent reddit implosion

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hmmm the main question is whether it can get it's content to show up in search results - this being the main selling point of Reddit and other platforms.

Right now, if you help someone fix an issue it's pretty much walled in and unavailable.

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[–] degrix@hqueue.dev 9 points 2 years ago

I have high hopes for Lemmy sticking around. The explosion in users around all the Reddit drama will likely have some of them stick around, which will be a net positive. It may not be good for “doom scrolling” any time soon, but it’s really nice to see some lively conversations in communities that are just starting to really blossom.

[–] halfelfhalfreindeer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

It depends on the growth curve. Right now it's exponential, which means it will keep growing. When you see it stay linear for a while, it'll probably start to flatten. At that point, it's either big enough to stick or it's not.

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Mate, it wasn't just created. This site has been around for a while

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm confident that the Fediverse will last. Sure, there's a lot of challenges with having nodes that can choose to not federate with each other; However, a large majority should federate over time so there can be cross-collaboration. At its worst case, we'll have some segmented nodes that, while unfederated, will still foster good communities. Nodes will come and go.

While these large, centralized services for social media exist, people will always gravitate toward convenience. Unless catastrophe strikes, Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. will always exist. But the fediverse gives us choice in a system where we generally had no choice but to use those platforms. After all, the alternative was old Forums that still had a solid userbase while other Forums collapsed and disappeared. If you provide a similar or better service to centralized services that is also convenient and user-friendly, then people will join the fediverse.

At the moment it is nascent, complex, and requires some confidence. Things that seem simple such as searching for another Community on another instance and joining it can be difficult for users to grasp. Over time this will get better.

Having grown up alongside the internet in its infancy, I've been very appreciative to experience the way in which it has changed over time. We're seeing another gradual shift, and a massive user base will associate with the fediverse. It's not going anywhere, but it certainly will never topple these massive corporations that have invested heavily into centralizing power, capturing the regulators and markets, and establishing themselves as information cartels that feast on the flow of money in the economy (read: parasitic leeches).

At the end of the day, I couldn't care less about these other social media platforms. I've embraced decentralization and am having a blast here with the fediverse. It reminds me of the earlier days of the internet. I'm excited to see where this evolves and also watch it grow.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I’m having fun here and it’s scratching my online discussion itch. I’ve barely been back to Reddit and when Apollo dies I think I will not go back at all. 16 years on Reddit and almost 300K karma.

[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy will last because it was already around. I don't think it will die in a few weeks. Today is my first day using it and I love it. I'm sure anyone who tries it will like it, too.

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[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It will last. I plan to stay here. I hope everyone else does too. Even if Reddit totally went completely back to how it was, I deleted my account because I don't like their attitude. I also find the conversation better here. And it's all open source, which is always my preference.

Same with Twitter, I still use it to follow F1 drivers but that's it. 99% of my socials is done on Mastodon now as there are more people there who share my interests and it's open source.

[–] CannaVet@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

While everyone wants to constantly cry about it not being Reddit - the fact that people are flocking here hand over fist over the more direct 1 for 1 Reddit clones shows that people do understand that we need to go back to a more decentralized web. Even if this doesn't hit critical Reddit size mass, there's enough of us to keep each other company ❤️

[–] anthimatter@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I like it. It's not reddit and I like that about it most. I think it will stay and grow. I think we know what we don't want now and Lemmy could just be it.

[–] burretploof@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While I plan on using this platform for the forseeable future - I don't have too high hopes.

I think it will probably go the way Mastodon is going. A few weeks of being "hot", then dropping off until it's pretty much business as usual, as it was before being the hot new thing. Don't get me wrong, I want Lemmy to succeed and replace reddit, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

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[–] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm ride or die once my 3PA stops working, so I hope it sticks around.

Gotta say, it would be more attractive if every other post wasn't a meta post about the platform and/or reddit. I hope we get some bots capable of ripping reddit posts and slapping them into Lemmy communities. As much as I'd like to pretend I'm a man of culture, sometimes I want shitposts and Tiktok reposts of someone's dog being stupid...

[–] Sterben@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I think it is just momentary, as it is the topic of the moment. Give it some time and we will forget about reddit. ☺️😅

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[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Two things to bear in mind...

  1. Lemmy existed before this current reddit fiasco, so it will exist after

  2. there are a critical mass of users now, and imo the userbase will continue to grow, with more and more unique content added

  3. Android / iOS apps are out, and in development. Mod tools are coming (iirc). As fediverse becomes less technical / easier to use, it's only going to attract more people

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[–] Anitabath097@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Lemmy is really the only solution because it is becoming as indepth as reddit is/was. What sucks is it will still be like a splinternet situation, having to spread all of our solutions across the internet.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I don't think it'll die... but it is a community that needs to be built basically from the ground up, while both the Lemmy/fediverse backend technology and infrastructure are actively being developed. Reddit refugees who want a drop-in alternative to doomscroll will probably be the first to leave.

The success or failure will be determined by the number of people willing to make an effort to post. Whether Lemmy (or the fediverse in general) will exceed the numbers of other services... I doubt it, but we wouldn't be here if we only cared about numbers.

[–] odama626@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I was pretty happy I was able to find my first answer on Google by using lemmy.world in the search today

[–] BlackCoffee@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Define "a few weeks"

The blackout started 12-06 which is 2 + weeks ago.

Lemmy and Kbin are still here and I see no sign of it slowing down. I see much more posts with more engagement which is a good thing.

[–] sirnak@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the entry barrier is still higher than reddit. So I doubt we'll see reddit users migrate by the millions because not everyone believes in free and open platforms like most of us do. But I'm excited to see what happens on Saturday when 3rd party apps shut down.

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[–] sovietafro@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

If lemmy can get the search algorithm to work well, it'll be good for a decent while I think... I hope for the sake of the internet everything needs to have some form of competition, and if Lemmy truly becomes the new reddit, hopefully we all learn what they did wrong and can make it better so that we as a collective have the best website/forum/memebase that's humanly possible

[–] Doodoocaca@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I hope they're going to find a way to make the whole federation thing less messy, otherwise I don't think Lemmy is going to be as big as Reddit ever was.

Also they have to solve the front page, where new topics are loading in from the TOP pushing everything down. Really annoying.

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Personal opinion: activity will spike around now, then plateau not much lower than its peak. It'll probably never be as popular as Reddit. I imagine most people will run into some minor inconvenience, then never try to use it again, and the rest of us will be here for years.

[–] sirnak@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I guess a big spike is still ahead, which will be around Saturday, once the 3rd party reddit apps shut down for good.

[–] Cratermaker@vlemmy.net 4 points 2 years ago

I think it's here to stay, and it makes me hopeful that we can get a somewhat mainstream version of the Internet as originally envisioned. The corpo hellscape we have right now is garbage.

[–] FewerWheels@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] sophia@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I hope it lasts, maybe not with a huge number of users but I can live with that.

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit is dead to me now. Terrible media players. Bulky unoptomized Javascript in browser. Slow load times. Just trash content now.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't think Lemmy will ever get the mainstream attention that reddit has to get big celebrity AMAs, but that may be a good thing, if it stays a genuine place like it is currently, people will come.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Reddit already killed the big AMAs anyway, but I get what you're saying.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

When Reddit forces "new Reddit" is when the real migration will occur. Reddit is dying more and more every day.

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[–] ellesper@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Lemmy has been around for quite a while, well before any of the recent issues. The userbase will probably die back once people get bored and go back to Reddit but some of us will still be here

[–] egeres@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Definitely will stay around, yet, realistically speaking, I don't have much expectations about this endeavor even scratching reddit's monopoly in the next 1 ~ 3 years (I hope I'm mistaken), who knows what will happen in 10 or 20

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Lemmy might pass for various reason, but the protocol wont. It's here to stay until a better protocol comes along

[–] Waitwuhtt@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The protest brought me here but I'm staying because I like it more.

[–] herrwoland@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I don't know about you but I'm here to stay. Also, you need to define "die", since lemmy existed long before reddit drama and will be here after their downfall even if users leave it'll continue to exist.

[–] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It all depends on if Reddit continues to make decisions with disastrous optics. If this is the one and only user bump Lemmy will get off the back of Reddit, I can see it dying down in the future, but if there's more I think it'll take flight and eventually start snowballing on its own merits. I'm not sure if it'll ever be mainstream, but it'll persist - as it was before all this.

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