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[–] fuggadihere@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Water is wet.

On a serious note. MS is still evil.

[–] Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

They were flying low, that's all, it is still the same shitty company.

[–] UziBobuzi@kbin.social 35 points 2 years ago

One of the top reasons I finally went Linux and I don't regret making the change one bit.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now it just needs to stop forcing windows 11 on windows 10 users

[–] abobla@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the title says that Microsoft hasn't stopped forcing Edge.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I read it the same way. I thought maybe this whole google getting taken to court business for manipulating their way to top search engine scared Microsoft by nah..

[–] kryllic@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago

...why would they?

[–] supercriticalcheese@feddit.it 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It got installed edge on an android phone as well.

While Microsoft doesn't normally control anything on android, my workplace requires a Microsoft intune to be installed to run the company email or teams on your phone. This effectively creates a workprofile with it's own play store and a forced install of several applications such as edge

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's your workplace doing that, not Microsoft

[–] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah seems like a request for a work provided phone would fix it. A guy I used to work with bought a burner flip phone when something like this was required and got the company to provide a work phone. After a month or two he would just openly use his normal phone and no one batted an eye.

[–] NabeGewell@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

By your logic it was my school that wanted us to learn MS products, not Microsoft. Are you sure about that?

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with Intune...

[–] NabeGewell@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't get your point, what does Intune have to do with the topic?

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The original comment I replied to was talking about Intune, and having to use Company Portal on mobile devices. What are you on about?

[–] NabeGewell@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Right, back on track. I'm sure a company wouldn't use, and require their employees use a program unless people in charge are already familiar with said product or there was a deal made for them. I don't know where the guy works but I'm sure that's a safe bet, my point is Microsoft is known to make deals with schools/uni to teach only their products instead of alternatives. It's why their products are so used - why learn something new when what you've been taught does the job

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Demand they provide a work phone. Never put Microsoft's stuff for work on your personal devices!!!

[–] supercriticalcheese@feddit.it 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would never do that to my personal phone, I installed that in a old phone that I had laying around.

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

That works, too. Glad to see people not trusting work apps on their private daily devices.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You should demand a work phone but work apps are usually insolated from the rest of the system for both yours and your employers benefit.

[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It enables your job to track you off hours. Did you go to a protest on the weekend your company doesn't approve of? If you aren't careful, you might give it permissions to your photos. If it's some form of 2FA, it might desire access to your SMS. In earlier days, the Outlook app use to be able to wipe the phone, it is more sandboxed now. But can you see how allowing access to your private information is a bad idea? Just say no. If it's for work related apps, they owe you a device to run it on.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

The amount of tracking the intrusiveness of it highly depends on the type of management they used.

MAM or work profiles are most often used for personal devices and it grants the employer the ability to only manage specific apps and or profile.

MDM enrollment is used for corporate owned devices and is more capable.

Here is some documentation for MS Intune, it will be slightly different for other providers but it will be roughly the same: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/apps/android-deployment-scenarios-app-protection-work-profiles

If it's for work related apps, they owe you a device to run it on.

Absolutely.

[–] artvabas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Get a live!

[–] patchwork@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago

I don’t like how any of these big tech companies try and force us to use their spyware vs letting people make an informed choice. I don’t agree with the technique, but the silver lining may be that we desperately need competition with browsers and the reality is that this is how US predatory capitalism works now. Companies take advantage of people because we have no proper regulation in the tech space. Maybe some people will switch to from Chrome to Edge (reskinned Chrome) Ranking for privacy on a 1-10 scale imho

Chrome 0 Edge 1 Firefox 5 Brave 6 LibreWolf 9

[–] achsonaja@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm afraid you might have misread the title... unless you're very optimistic

[–] achsonaja@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

lol you’re right. I misread that, my bad.