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Summary

A YouGov poll in five Western European countries found majorities view Donald Trump as a threat to European peace, with concerns rising after he suspended military aid to Ukraine.

Most respondents oppose Kyiv’s exclusion from U.S.-Russia peace talks and doubt Europe alone could support Ukraine.

Support for increased defense spending remains limited, despite fears that Russia could attack again.

Proposals for European peacekeepers in Ukraine have mixed support. The survey highlights growing skepticism about U.S. commitments to NATO and European security.

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[–] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 121 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A majority of Western Europeans also have a better education than the majority of my fellow American citizens.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 52 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Many europeans always have thought about USA as a threat to peace. The migrants crisis in europe is a direct result of USA fucking up the middle east for decades.

[–] blurcosp@leminal.space 18 points 4 months ago

And now we have far-right ultranationalistic movements popping up through Europe as a result.

[–] GenXLiberal@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

And we fuck up other places to, lets not sell the US short.

https://youtube.com/shorts/l3gBif0K6cc

[–] darkmoon_au@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

My British Dad, circa 1988: "America's a strange place, they usually do the right thing, but they're a bit nuts... they love guns."

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I might have to watch that again.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Most if us un the US too, probably.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 18 points 4 months ago

Both supporters and opponents.

The supporters want violence. Us opponents see that he is pushing for it.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I wish, but if that were the case he wouldn't be in office.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 44 points 4 months ago

Majority of western Europeans are paying attention, survey finds

[–] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 4 months ago

Objectively he is.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

A minority of western Europeans are idiots.

[–] ITguru@feddit.nl 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hi guys, new here on lemmy. Just want to say FKUC Trump!

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Welcome, avoid the tankies

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

If it was only peace lol.

He's a threat the very survival of the specie.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yet support for increased defense spending is limited. I guess there may be a change in attitudes once the Americans enact tarrifs against the EU and/or formally leave NATO.

[–] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Most countries have announced increased defense spending with support across the political spectrum and EU defense stocks are one of the few safe havens left during this tariff nonsense. France has offered a nuclear umbrella to its neighbours. Poland is up to 5% GDP on defence. Not sure what you mean by limited support but maybe I misunderstand.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

I was referring to the survey results.

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

They don't even have to leave NATO formally, just undermine confidence in article 5 enough that it's no longer a deterrent.

[–] ray1992xd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That is because in countries like The Netherlands, 100 square meters will cost you about €500 000 at the moment. Warming my house on natural gas costs me €10 a day. In the grocery store, the avarage item price is now €3,-. We must have health insurance (good thing!) but if you can't afford it, you have the option to gamble on higher "own risk". That means paying more out of your own pocket. Gasoline is €2 a liter. We also have to reduce CO2 but don't have enough capacity on the grid to support all the green initiatives. Meaning electricity prices go up. Immigrants fleeing from terrible conditions are very welcome here (also, good thing!), but they need to be paid for somehow. Life is expensive and spending more on military means higher taxes or worse services.

Personally I don't have it bad at all and most people still don't, but I can understand why some people see this as a hard pill to swallow.

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If US commitment to the NATO nuclear umbrella is questioned, Russia will attempt to capitalize on it.

Threats of nuclear action are considerably more believable when there's no threat of nuclear retaliation. Ukraine would never have been invaded if they still had nuclear weapons.

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Read that as: Majority of Western Europeans suspect ocean of containing water.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Doesn’t the majority of everyone everywhere think this by now?

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think at this point for majority of the world, this is common sense now.

[–] Septapus@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're right damn this is just hitting me. This chain of events has enabled china to take over much of the Pacific islands and other nations they 'claim' are theirs by historical right. The russians will come for the European continent and the usa will make majorly predatory moves on the American continents. Fuck, the entire world has been made unsafe.

[–] darkmoon_au@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Let us know when the eggs fall in price. Then we'll know it was all worth it. Cheers.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Only western Europeans? I would think eastern Europeans are even more terrified of the implications of Trump being an obvious FSB asset.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 4 months ago

They only asked Western Europeans.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

"The great peacemaker" needs big wars so that he can eventually "make" a peace...

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

We’ve been saying this in the U.S. since 2016.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

At this point that's like saying the meteor was a "threat" to dinosaurs

[–] Tamei@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Breaking news, really. The dude who threatens to invade his allies is a threat to peace, bravo! If we keep up this pace with dealing with the situation, then we are doomed.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

..and to think that a significant (but probably not primary) reason why Trump is punishing Ukraine is because he wants to oversee a peace treaty regardless of the circumstances, all so that he can earn a Nobel Peace Prize like Obama.

Yes, the man is that shallow and vain.

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