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Anyone here tried Owncloud? (lemmy.zip)
submitted 2 months ago by possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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I've gotten a bit tired of Nextcloud as of late an I'm curious it is a viable alternative. I like having Nextcloud Talk but I can live without it.

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[–] JakeSparkleChicken@midwest.social 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the beginning, there was ownCloud. They were a good FLOSS offering that decided to start catering solely to corporate customers in the hopes of juicy support contracts. The community who had been contributing the majority of the code gave them a mighty "Fork you" and created NextCloud.

That was about ten years ago. I haven't looked into ownCloud for the last seven or so, but it had stagnated pretty badly by that point. Maybe they've gotten some fresh blood since then, but you'll likely find it to be quite lacking in features and plugins comparatively.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I like that they are using Go instead of Php

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I had heard they had rewritten it in go and got a lot more performant, not sure what else they have done. I don't care much about the politics as long as it's still open source (is it?).

That said, I'm a happy nextcloud user and I don't see a reason to switch (after moving both data and db onto SSDs it's much faster, so maybe php wasn't the bottleneck).

[–] JakeSparkleChicken@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's interesting that they refactored it. Maybe there have been some improvements made over the last seven years.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It wasn't refactored. It was totally rewritten

That doesn't mean it is actually good though

[–] xrun_detected@programming.dev 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Owncloud seems to be pretty much over IIRC.

The company behind it got bought be some american company in 2023, that promised that everything will "stay as open as it is" - you won't believe what happened next ;)

Then recently many of the developers left to join OpenCloud, which seems to be a fork of owncloud, lead by a german open source veteran.

https://github.com/opencloud-eu

[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

NextCloud already forked from owncloud?

[–] xrun_detected@programming.dev 15 points 2 months ago

Well, yes, but...

nextcloud forked owncloud back when there was only the php codebase.

opencloud forked owncloud ocis, which is a rewrite in go.

So while both forked "owncloud", or "something named owncloud", i doubt they'll have any code in common.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

I really would like to switch to them, it seems way more responsive than Nextcloud and I only really need a Web/CalDav server and don't want to have that in two different services

[–] samc@feddit.uk 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Be aware there are basically two different things called Owncloud. There's still the original php version, which is similar to nextcloud but worse (not open source, smaller plugin ecosystem I think)

On the other hand is owncloud "infinite scale" (or ocis). This is the thing entirely written in go. But as others have pointed out, it's little more than a file server at this point.

IMO the self-hosting community is really missing a self-contained "all the DAVs" server (files, calendar, contacts). Baikal etc seem like a great start, but it would be great to have somewhere to get those parts pre-assembled. Until then, nextcloud works for me.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I thought that as well. Just give me a headless Dav Server and have people create frontends for it

[–] bigDottee@geekroom.tech 12 points 2 months ago

Like others, I started with owncloud but when Nextcloud forked I switched within a year. I haven’t looked back and is working without any issues and is performant.

I don’t really care about the enterprise shit since it’s not being shoved in my face 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] TheFANUM@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Nextcloud is the improvement.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If you're looking for a good Nextcloud replacement I recommend Seafile. Been using it for years, very solid.

[–] xi00@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I can second that, I've been using seafile and Baikal for about a year now coming from next cloud. The systems are so much smoother and less resource hungry. Next cloud is good when you have a small company, which I don't think applies to many self hosters. I have everything inside a docker compose setup, so everything from backups to updates is much easier, and with a nginx proxy and proper network isolation I don't have security concerns with running smaller tools such as Baikal on my machine.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's just for files though. I'm looking for calendar and contact management as well

[–] spiffpitt@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

have you looked into baikal?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I'm playing with it now. So far so good, after a rocky setup.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I used to but had issues with it. Switched to Nextcloud.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep. I like next cloud much better.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I just need to clean up my install so it isn't so bogged down.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

How is it set up? What are you running it on?

My Nextcloud instance doesn't use a ton of resources. But I'm on a somewhat beefy machine (16GB RAM, 8-core CPU), so YMMV.