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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

I really hope indie developers will start moving off Discord. I always really disliked their UI, but it's becoming clear that Discord is not viable in the long-term.

[–] TediousTasks@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Enshitification ensues.

If you're looking for an alternative: https://revolt.chat/

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or Matrix. Lots of clients, all kind of meh, but it's federated, and has e2ee.

[–] ActionBasto@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

desperately needs screen sharing. it's basically the only reason me and my friends use discord still.

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not only that but noise cancelation Discord use sounds better according to my friends.

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Sadly, it does. I hate fucking discord since I've started using it, the quirky facade and everything. We use it as webrtc and I would gladly drop it for anything less clown shoes, but the noise cancelation just works.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Came here to ask for an alternative, so thanks. I didn't have Revolt in my open source/federated alternatives list. But I've added it now.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago
[–] craig9@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Any advice on how to move a server over to a matrix/element based setup?

I have a feeling there will be resistance to change, because many of the core people there seem to be discord fans and are longtime users.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have a feeling there will be resistance to change, because many of the core people there seem to be discord fans and are longtime users.

I only use it (discord) if I really have to now, been encouraging my friends/peers to contact me on matrix if anything, which hopefully pushes the user base.