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[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I might not have much of a horse in this race as someone that only really plays Minecraft once in a blue moon (and normally swiftly puts it down because I'm not that kind of creative and I get too stressed out from survival mode), but honestly, I'm not a fan.

This says it all. This person should simply shut the fuck up and not be a games journalist.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's like, 95% of games "journalists" these days.

[–] bread@feddit.nl 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Journalists in general have lost an unbelievable amount of credibility, and games bloggers are the bottom of the barrel.

I think journalists too often have way too little education and way often than not they have no idea what they're talking about. The quality of news is often low. We need better journalism. I was thinking about exactly that just yesterday, by chance.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Especially from places like RPS and Kotaku.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 6 points 2 months ago

you don't really need to be an avid player to have an opinion on the visuals.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 66 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What a weird passive aggressive headline. A better default is a good thing, and doesn’t stop modders from doing their own thing.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

So long as there's an option to retain the normal experience, especially for those on older hardware that can't run fancier stuff. Then it's all good!

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Everything is rage bait nowadays. It's exhausting.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wait, what makes it passive-aggressive? I didn't interpret the title to sound as anything other than fully positive.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

“You don’t need (and therefore shouldn’t want) this obviously good thing” has this connotation that the Minecraft team has been wasting their time on pointless features, when in reality first-party support for a feature is nearly always more stable than a mod.

Plus read the article, the author is a vehement hater of Minecraft. What a joke.

[–] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 46 points 2 months ago

Original title for anyone who doesn't want to click on the article:

"Minecraft is getting a visual overhaul you probably don't need because of all those mods you've got installed"

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes. All those mods on console that you can get.....

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aren't there mods? At least texture packs, right?

[–] callyral@pawb.social 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On console you can get texture packs and add-ons... from the marketplace.

On other bedrock platforms (Windows or Mobile) you can install textures and add-ons from your own files. The problem is that Bedrock add-ons are significantly less capable than Java's mods.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I still have no idea if bedrock or java is the better version after all these years.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Java, and its not even close.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Cool, thank you!

[–] callyral@pawb.social 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bedrock makes it easier to play with friends, it also has cross-platform support (except for Linux and Mac). Console players can only play on featured servers (unless they use workarounds).

Java is better in most other aspects (I am biased for it though, since it's what I play): you can mod it, play older versions, use custom shaders (with mods), no microtransactions, play on any server you want, (apparently) less game-breaking bugs, etc.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Thanks! It's crazy to me they still keep two versions.

[–] callyral@pawb.social 7 points 2 months ago

Yeah, it is incovenient when you play Java and other people you know play Bedrock (or vice-versa). There is a community-made plugin called Geyser that allows Bedrock players to play on Java servers (it can be buggy sometimes but it is the closest we have to Java-Bedrock crossplay).

[–] MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Java is the original and Bedrock is the C++ adaptation that came about once Microsoft bought Minecraft. Microsoft couldn't really justify getting rid of Java edition because that's what the entire PC userbase was using at the time, and they've gotten very used to the features it allows for. Namely mods. However they still wanted to unify the casual playerbase and better monetize the game.

On the topic of monetization, Minecraft originally had this nasty little clause (for Microsoft) written in I forget either the ToS, EULA, or what, but it essentially guaranteed all future updates to the game for free. I believe it also made some other guarantees about no MTX, should never have to pay for servers, etc but those I'm less certain about. Around the time MS bought the game there was a lot of talk about how the only way they'd really be able to get out of that guarantee to the millions of players who already owned "Java edition" (just regular Minecraft back then) was to make a Minecraft 2.0 that didn't have that clause. Their approach for that problem appears to have been bedrock edition which they maintain alongside Java edition. Because it's not the version they bought, they can make changes to the legal agreements including charging for things Java Edition users have a guaranteed right to.

Those are the two main reasons I'm aware of for the two editions. I believe the majority of the PC playerbase is currently on Bedrock Edition so although they would have some backlash if they suddenly decided to axe it I think the majority of the playerbase would chug on like normal. Afaik the main reason they don't is because anyone who purchased Minecraft before there was a "Java Edition" would have a legal claim to say Bedrock is clearly the same game under another title, they're not getting future updates as guaranteed, and are entitled to either updates or compensation. And I can't imagine MS is interested in litigiously pissing off millions of players.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Luanti is the better option IMHO because it's FOSS and therefore more ethical.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Looks pretty cool. Thanks

[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Minecraft is the best-selling game of all time, but it's looked pretty much the same for the entirety of its almost 14 year run

Usually games don't change how they look no matter how long they've been out.

[–] fdrc_lm@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 months ago

Also people like Minecraft precisely for its comfy basic aesthetic and vibe in general

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago

Hasn't it gone through two or three major texture overhauls anyway?

[–] StupidOriginalName@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Lots of games get remasters. This is an optional visual update, but you don't have to use it.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago

cool, hopefully they don't fuck up the Java release.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Can it handle that? It already runs worse on new beast systems than old versions did on average ones.

[–] mr2meows@pawb.social 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

inb4 java edition becomes unplayable on older systems even with render distance set to lowest

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 8 points 2 months ago

Apparently you’ll be able to toggle between the new lighting and the old lighting, so hopefully that isn’t a problem

[–] molten@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

This news site is for PC gaming and it always causes a ruckus when people read their articles and don't know it.

[–] icecreamtaco@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What a shitty title. Consoles will be happy to get this

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

First line in their about us:

Rock Paper Shotgun is about PC gaming.

[–] molten@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

One of the few news sites for PC gaming. The regular readers will probably not be primarily console gamers.

People are trigger happy with the indignation here.