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Granted I would like to live in a more civil society and I thought we were at least going in that direction for about half my life but the rate we have been falling in the second half has been very sobering.

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[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

The “leaders” of the Democratic Party won’t even use the law to aid their constituents…

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, there is precident for things to escalate to physical violence on the floor of the US Congress. It was just in the lead-up to the civil war, is all. Arguments getting so heated that legislators can't resist the urge to just beat up the other guy probably are a bad sign for a country.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that still better than legislators bowing to fascist pressure and letting them slowly gain more and more power until no one can stop them without a bloody civil war or a potential world war?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If the violence actually stops that and doesn't just become a symbolic victory where the fascists get to keep the laws they passed at the cost of a punch at the legislative floor, sure. But that wasn't my point. I wasn't saying "violence in politics is a bad thing to consider under any and all circumstances", but "if a country has reached a level of polarization where even the members of its governing body feel the need to resort to that with eachother, things have already gone wrong". It's a symptom of a serious problem coming to light, not the problem itself, in other words.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

I agree with it being a symptom rather than the cause. Which is why, just like the case with Luigi, I don't condone it but I don't condemn it, either. He's just a symptom to the actual problem going near critical status.

On the other hand, it is also a symptom of the system trying to correct itself, albeit forcefully. But that means I'm also worried when the symptom doesn't manifest itself when I expect it to because it could be a sign of a lack of corrective feedback.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago