just send all the billionaires to mars and the rest of us will have to learn how to survive without them
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That's a common misspelling of "thrive".
What makes you guys think they can't rule over you from Mars? On the other hand, that would just make them out of reach of any protests or riots and even more immune from consequences.
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both are not mutually exclusive
Yep. People definitely want to colonize the first one. The only thing keeping apartments off that location is strict governmental regulation of space like that. The desire is definitely there though.
I don't think space travel is inherently a bad idea. But I don't think it'd be the billionaires to get us there, especially not someone like Elon.
SpaceX is a rocket ship manufacturer, NASA outsourced that like the US military outsources aircraft manufacturing to Boeing or Lockheed Martin.
Elon is not going to/was never going to "get us there" he's just the guy who owns the company that makes the vehicles. Idk what this huge miscommunication is and how people got to the idea that he's personally going to be the one who pushes humanity to mars, he doesn't even have a say in the operations NASA uses his spacecraft for.
Elon used to say he was going to found a Mars colony. I don't pay much attention to him so maybe he doesn't talk about it anymore, but it was a big thing maybe fifteen years ago.
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The poor moon, it gets skipped over. Doesn't it deserve to be colonized too? Maybe we could put an amusement park there or something.
Ooh! It could have animatronics that sing songs about what it was like being a whaler on the moon!
Or farming space beetles on the half of the planet your family owns
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Shhhh!!! 🤫 This the best chance we have to get rid of a bunch of them all at once
I don't think anyone deserves to be a space slave to Musk.
Nah, he can take his simps. They won't be missed. Half of thrm are fascists anyways.
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Okay, but The Planet Crafter is really cool for exactly that reason. You slowly but surely make a barren wasteland livable, it's extremely rewarding
Edit: I may have misunderstood the intention of this meme, but I still stand behind Planet Crafter being a fun game
Meanwhile on earth we are slowly but surely making a livable planet a barren wasteland
For money
For like 400 massive douchebags
Yeah, pretty much. What was the name of that movie? Oh yeah, Elysium. That's probably what's going to happen, isn't it
Bet Elongated Husk will be the one to build the Elysium.
I'm all for it. With his ability to fuck things up, he'd actually do us a favour for once
Let him. Hopefully someone will then hack into Space Force network and nuke it.
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Can't eat the rich if we can't reach the rich.
The fuck you think they want spaceships for? Lol
It's not about prime real estate, it's about increasing the redundancy of humanity's survival. Two planets are better than one.
There seems to be a large amount of overlap between people who say things like "It's hubris to think that humans can change the atmosphere of the earth enough to make a noticeable difference in 400 years" and "we can make Mars inhabitable by humans in 50 years"
What the fuck, no there isn't. Are you actually implying most people that are interested in a mars colony are climate change deniers?
More the other way around, I know a surprising amount of climate change deniers that think we need to colonize Mars to save the human race.
I'm not trying to say it can't or it shouldn't be done, but it has to be both. We have to find a way to live sustainably and also expand.
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It's also not about Terraforming! That's a goal for a few thousand years down the line. For now, just spreading out our habitats is a good idea.
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In order to colonize mars, having a good space station in orbit would help out immensely. We're talking big enough to stretch out and hold a few hundred people.
The station would need to grow crops and have minor but flexible manufacturing.
At that point, why would you colonize mars vs just make more stations?
For real, resource extraction is a big one. Finding ice means they can make, besides water, oxygen and rocket fuel. Not to mention that shelters for radiation are incredibly hard to make without a huge amount of mass, which we cannot efficiently get into orbit without a space elevator. Hence being able to extract it from the location of the colony, say dig into the ground or build thick walls with bricks made from soil, is necessary for long term survival of the inhabitants. I think it is cool that due to these reasons having air balloons over Venus might even be a better option due to it having a protective atmosphere.
You can make a radiation field by running a large motor that would save you from the solar radiation.
In space you always have access to the sun. A cheap form of power. You need a lot more batteries if you're on the planet.
Venus is a much better idea over mars.
Didn't know that it was feasible to create a radiation field by running a large motor. Not that I doubt you, but if you have a source I would be very happy to read more about it.
I heard about it on one of Isaac Arthur's videos. I can't remember which one, but the analogy he used was that earth's magnetosphere is essentially a big motor created by earth's metal core spinning. (Oversimplified) So you should be able to build a motor that would shield a station
Sure, and theoretically we could do a lot of shit. Isaac Arthur isnt a scientist he's a edutainment YouTuber.
Creating our own magnetosphere is a little more complex or we'd have already done it, plus what happens if it fails? Where's your backup? You just gonna die when it shuts down?
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Space stations don't produce raw materials, even if they could self sustain their human populations with food grown onboard they'd require the resources of earth to build and expand, so they're still dependent on Earth.
A space station wouldn't make anything inherently easier, unless it was attached via space elevator just having a chunk of metal in orbit doesn't change how much energy you need to get things out of the gravity well.
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Mining is a big reason. And radiation shielding, as others have said.
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Space colonies are cool but we're nowhere close to being able to make a self-sustaining colony
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That's Kirkjufell in Iceland
You could have just slapped any combination of letters together in that name as long as there's a J and I'd still believe this sentence.
Lol so true.
I wouldn't mind leaving a lot of Earth's natural beauty alone, as much as SpaceX's mission doesn't resonate with me very much
Villia Starlight strikes again.
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