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Hello, is there any social media on this planet that does not ban people for things that are completely legal in all of the European legal systems?

Or is the fediverse the best choice because even though if moderators guide public opinion on the mainstream instances, people can still go to a smaller instance for refuge.

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[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's the beauty of the Fediverse. You can host your own instance and do whatever you want. But be prepared to be defederated.

[โ€“] androidul@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

what if the defederated instances make a federation of their own? hmm

[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 17 points 2 months ago

Nice architecture. Isn't it?

[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago

Yes, that already happens afaik

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm looking for a place like r/capitalismvsocialism or r/purplepilldebate

Place where people communicate with eachother and nobody gets banned.

I'm quite sick of bubbles. Everyone just sticking with like minded people and removing the rest.

[โ€“] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There's a reason they're called 'communities' on Lemmy. What you see as a bubble, other see as a place of refuge where they're not going to be attacked by people 'just asking questions'.

[โ€“] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There's a study somewhere that states humans were never meant to have communities above a few hundred, and the bigger we grew the more we lost. I for one am happy with leaving some folk sad they're not allowed back in when they break community rules.

[โ€“] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well @Leraje, that's exactely what has happend to me. I asked a simple question in another community and get bashed by some people just like you would expect on some other social. Then I said: "I'm out of here" and I unsubscribed and blocked the community. Just to say that there are dipheads here too.

[โ€“] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

" I asked a simple question..."

Without knowing what community it was and what the exact question was, I'm not sure what you're expecting me to say about that.

[โ€“] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's OK. You don't have to say something about my post. I just wanted to inform you all that on Lemmy there are also haters, keyboard warriors or people that are so depressed that they can't see anything positive in a post, a question or a reply.

[โ€“] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Sounds like you're the problem, if everywhere you going you're getting flak.

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can't say that I share the sentiment of those people. I haven't blocked anyone in my entire life.

[โ€“] femtech@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

yep, my family has been living here in Belgium for a very long time.

[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why not start your own Lemmy instance? If people are interested into that, they'll join.

[โ€“] MemmingenFan923@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How complex is this? And how much does it cost per month to host your own instance?

[โ€“] slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Not overly hard if you can work a Linux cli.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible

As for costs, will that depends on how many users, what hardware you run it on, and the yearly domain.

Several instances are on single circuit board PC's like Raspberry Pi with an attached USB HDD.

[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 1 points 2 months ago

You should definitely be working in IT at least. Don't forget that you are responsible for personal data from your users.

Price-wise it's not that expensive to host a Lemmy instance. A few hundred users cost you 20 to 30 euros a month.

[โ€“] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Generally speaking, I've found Lemmy to be far less accepting of different viewpoints than either Twitter or Reddit in their heyday. The echo chamber is extremely strong here, even though the "correct" narrative is different.

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

I vote left wing, but left wingers in general are less accepting of freedom of expression. That's my experience.

[โ€“] edvardgm@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Yee, banning people who have a reason to look the way they do, will make the world a worse place. Soon the right activities bubble will burst

[โ€“] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

You're probably better off on a mastodon instance rather than lemmy

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think Discord is pretty lenient on everything. They're an US company though. Also Telegram, that's what all the conspiracy theorists use, I think they don't moderate a lot. That one is founded by Russians, and registered on the British Virgin islands.

I think they both technically fit your requirements, but I wouldn't recommend any of them. You can also use traditional internet forums or the Fediverse. They're all moderated by the people themselves. With varying rules on what you're allowed to post.

I mean if you just want to discuss politics, society and philosophy, without spreading hate and misinformation... You'd be welcome here, we do those kinds of things on Lemmy.

[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Telegram disallows all sexual content, legal or not.

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Really? Are you sure this isn't just a restriction for people who download the app from the Apple store, or who live in islamic countries? The TOS they display to me specifically mention illegal pornographic content. But I've never used it, so I don't really know.

[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It might have started with Apple, but basically now they continuously take down public groups that contain sexual content, as soon as they find them. Of course I'm sure it's a losing game of wackamole...

[โ€“] MrPoletki@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago
[โ€“] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

I'm starting to think this guy is not trying to make a community about politics or legal porn.