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Prosecutors have charged a Metropolitan Police officer with murder after he shot rapper Chris Kaba in London last year.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

Here in the States he would have won a free vacation (suspension with pay) and suffered no actual consequences.

[–] peter@feddit.uk 36 points 2 years ago

Nice to see consequences

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where did this constable think he was? America?

[–] Wildf1re@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is England not America, so the title makes sense. It is written in English, not simplified English.

[–] PiousAgnostic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It makes total sense in America. Here we would have shot him before he was dead though.

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If a headline can be interpreted in multiple ways because the word choice makes it vague it is the headline that is the problem, not the reader.

This is solved by choosing more precise language. "Cop who fatally shot unarmed black man" is just as concise but is also unambiguous.

Let's not let our desire to make fun of Americans get in the way of doing things properly.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] BingoBangoBongo@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago

Idk why he would shoot a dead man

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago

...who shot dead, unarmed black man...

Nope, no commas necessary mate

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Word order:

London Cop Who Shot Unarmed Black Man Dead Charged With Murder

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Needs more information, which obviously will come out after the trial.

[–] livus@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

@Syldon

Here's some from a more detailed article:

There are still many unknown details about Chris Kaba’s death. What we do know is that on 5 September, Kaba was driving through south London when an automatic number plate recognition camera flagged the car he was in as recently being linked to a firearms incident. The IOPC has said that the car was not registered under Kaba’s name.

Police officers then pursued Kaba, eventually performing a “controlled stop” – two police vehicles collided with his car, cornering him in Streatham Hill. A specialist firearms officer then fired a single shot at the driver’s side through the windscreen, hitting Kaba in the back of the head. He was taken to hospital, where he died two hours later. According to Kaba’s family, they were not told of his death for 11 hours.

After a thorough search of the car Kaba was driving, the IOPC reported that no firearm was found

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think this leaves out a bit.

At around 10.07pm, Kaba made a left turn from New Park Road onto Kirkstall Gardens.[5] A marked armed response vehicle was waiting on this road.[5] Police vehicles boxed the car in, and witnesses claimed that Kaba ignored repeated orders to get out of the vehicle, and was trying to ram the Audi through the roadblock.[6] Armed officers exited their vehicles then approached the Audi on foot.[5] According to the IOPC, a police officer fired a single round at Kaba through the car's windscreen, striking him.[5][6] He was taken to a nearby hospital, where he died of his injuries just after 12:00 am the following day.[7]

Also I found this really interesting

On 21 September the family of the deceased viewed the police body-worn camera footage of the incident. Having seen it, Kaba's cousin said that they would be taking a step back in their protest about the death.

The original BBC article words it a bit differently

Afterwards, Mr Kaba's cousin Jefferson Bosela repeated Ms Nkama's comments, saying the family now wants "justice" but that they would now be taking a "step back" after some initial campaigning following Mr Kaba's death.

Not sure what they changed their mind about

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

This should be the top comment right here. Some actual context around what happened.

[–] reverendsteveii@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'd love to know what "recently linked to a firearms incident" actually means, especially given that it seems to have been flagged by an automated system and that "firearms incident" was seen as justification to ram a car off the road and then shoot the occupant in the back before any actual threat was verified.

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

According to OP's article it had been used in a shooting. Still not really an excuse to kill its occupant though.

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[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah I looked around. It still needs the trial to be completed first.

Did the guy do something silly that made the policeman shoot, is an unanswered question.

What was the criteria for releasing the shot would be the second question. The CPS will not prosecute without a fair chance at conviction, but innocent until proven and all that.

You could also be asking what was he doing in a car with the history it had, but that should not be justification to kill someone. I would not wish for the UK to follow in the US footsteps of frivolous shootings.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

Did the guy do something silly that made the policeman shoot, is an unanswered question.

I saw this in the Wikipedia article

But witnesses claimed the driver ignored police requests to give himself up and when he attempted to ram his way out of the roadblock, officers opened fire.

Dunno how the situation actually went down though

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[–] FiniteLooper@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] kartonrealista@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Ha ha very funny. Except this is grammatically correct and not ambiguous. It would work with your joke interpretation if it said "who shot dead, unarmed, black man"

[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I disagree that this is unambiguous, I was also confused reading this headline. It's odd wording. It may be technically correct but that doesn't mean it's unambiguous.

[–] FiniteLooper@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“…shot and killed an unarmed…” would be a much better phrasing

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or "shot dead an unarmed black man". Three additional characters would have fixed this. I've long been frustrated by the journalistic style of removing every possible word from headlines. We're no longer reading these things printed on dead trees, there's no extra ink being spent or space wasted.

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Many apps or websites cut titles off, though. It's important to keep them short.

I wish more people followed proper journalistic formats. Frustrates me when the first sentence is supposed to have everything you need to know - who, what, where, when, why, how - but instead these gen Z journalists think they should bury the details 5 paragraphs deep.

The proper way to write an article is to give the reader everything they need to know from the first sentence, and then expand in detail with each following paragraph, from most important to least.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I'd probably go with

London Cop Charged With Murder For Shooting Unarmed Black Man Dead

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 6 points 2 years ago

"who shot an unarmed black man dead"

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Quick tip - if the majority of people who read something find it ambiguous, it is. Plain and simple - especially for languages like English that don't have a central authority for setting language rules.

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It's written by a British person in OG English. This phrase isn't unambiguous here and it took me a sec to figure out why people were confused. It's just a syntax difference but surely you can figure it out with context clues, just like I did with your interpretation.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

Quick tip - People with a poor grasp of un-simplified English are not the majority

[–] Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Dammit...thats what i said in another post!

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