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House Republicans have voted down an effort to block immigration enforcers from using federal resources to detain or deport U.S. citizens.

During a House Judiciary Committee meeting on Wednesday, Democrats tabled amendments to a sweeping budget bill that President Donald Trump has dubbed "one big, beautiful bill."

One amendment introduced by Representative Pramila Jayapal, the Democrat from Washington state, sought to make clear Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) cannot detain or deport U.S. citizens under any circumstances. GOP lawmakers killed that amendment.

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[–] henfredemars 144 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Words matter. They are not deporting citizens. They are kidnapping and quite possibly murdering. It’s a crime. Acknowledge this for the crime that it is. Call it human trafficking. But deporting it is not.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 27 points 1 month ago

Right, so we should add language to the bill that says you can't kidnap and murder US citizens and then see how that's used in court when the other side says they merely deported the person.

Brilliant strategy.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If words matter, I'm curious to know what definition of "deporting" you are using to claim that what they are doing is not deporting people.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Til, I guess to vcan technically deport a citizen.

deport dɪˈpɔːt verb

  • expel (a foreigner) from a country, typically on the grounds of illegal status or for having committed a crime.
  • exile (a native) to another country.
  • conduct oneself in a specified manner. archaic
[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago

Indeed.

Of course, they are doing all the other for you mentioned, too. Morally, even if not legally. IANAL, so I can't speak with authority.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

House Republicans are traitors

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 17 points 1 month ago

Traitors should be hanged.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

US gonna have to find a way to make these people accountable if they ever want to get out of this shit. But I'm afraid it's already to late,the fascist state will protect those who bend to the dictator.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

The main message from Trump supporters is they don't regret anything even if they suffer, long as the right people get hurt. It is impossible to have meaningful society built with people like that as a collective.

[–] GhostPain@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When do we start acknowledging the GOP are Nazis and the Dems are controlled opposition?

Asking for the disabled and elderly.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And also queer people and non-white people.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago

And women in general.

[–] Plurrbear@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Funny since their leader (Trump) came here illegally and so did the Musk family! While we have a douche Canadian calling himself “Ted”… fleeing to Mexico to avoid blame in TX. The GOP party is straight up liars, rapists, and uneducated hypocrites. Basically, just all around TRASH! The “American Experiment” has clearly fucking failed! Let’s clean house and move the fuck on!

Trump isn't an immigrant. I don't like the man either but he was born in Queens.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They added it to an omnibus bill, is it another flaw of the US system that it's unable to pass laws that only cover one issue?

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kinda yeah. Every bill is a negotiation. One side isnt going to straight up agree to a bill presented by the other side without pushing them for a little bit more. And one thing leads to another and the bill is too bloated to make sense anymore

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

But it's a budget bill though, they could have asked for that as a separate bill

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago

"Republicans vote for ICE to continue kidnapping US citizens"

Replace double negatives where possible

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Stop calling them “Republicans”. They are Nazis.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. The Republican Party no longer exists. Its now the MAGA Nazi Party, and the Democrats should start routinely referring to them that way.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Half the Democratic party secretly agrees with them

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

They always were. At least since Nixon.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

PLEASE reach out to minorities for future elections. Evidence like this shows how racist the GOP is; they have to stop voting against their own interests...

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, but my minority neighbor who voted for trump isn't just going to succumb to logic.

If logic was involved in the first place, we wouldn't be here.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

You don't know that. It's easy to say "we can't reach these people" and for the most hardcore MAGA freaks, that's true. But most people are capable of paying attention and learning from their mistakes. This shitshow is already producing a lot of Trupgret. Just look at GOP folks at town halls and prominent Republicans that would have never dared to criticize him before. It sucks but we have to keep trying to reach them...

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

In 5 years, Americans who fuck up while visiting Europe or Asia and get deported will have a meltdown thinking they're being sent to Latin America.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Another question is why isn't an active mass violation of human rights (what is a crime in any other industrialized nation) being responded to by the Democrats.

If your representative is Republican, assure that by their refusal to support such a law they are committing a massive wrongdoing against humanity.

If your representative is Democrat, remind them that without immediately responding to this with action and refusal to engage in any other administrative duty, they are complicit.

The future is watching closely the present moment in time, and will not be kind to those who could have acted and yet stood idly by.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well no shit. How is this headline news? Who's disillusioned enough to think that the Republicans wouldn't? Republican is now just a euphemism for fascist.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stop allowing it to be normalized or desensitized. It should be outrageous every.single.time.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

This is Lemmy. Whenever someone furthers fascism it should be written off as routine, while whenever anyone acts against it we should be outraged because they didn't wave a magic wand and solve all problems everywhere immediately.

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 month ago

Glad I made enough popcorn to watch the downfall of murica