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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Funny how we hear more about Luigi than this guy who killed more than one.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We should. One of them is a terrorist who we shouldn't glorify and the other is an innocent man who we should glorify.

I don't even wanna see the terrorists name.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 2 points 1 month ago

Luigi is a role model

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Article is a good one. Red flags all over.

a member of Charlie Kirk’s Turning Point USA, a fascist youth group around the Republican Party

I didn't know they had crossed that line.

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago

I don't follow TPUSA too heavily but every rally Turning Point UK has gets a few of their attendees throwing seig heils now. I'm pretty sure they were doing it back in spring 2023, at least 18 months before "my heart goes out to you"

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've seen a Turning Point Church down the road from the city court house. They've been growing and infecting.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Toilet paper usa goes to college campuses to recruit more young republicans too. and charlie kirk loves to labe himself an ALPHA. its also bizarre hes married and has kids i believe to, turns out even the shittiest people can get together, no excuse for incels that follow people like charlie.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Given this, and his stepmother’s access to firearms, it is obvious that this isn’t a crime that would have been prevented by the gun control measures advocated by the Democrats, since none of the proposals involve disarming the police.

Yes it would have.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

They inviting dems to do more??

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

"The indoctrination is strong with this one." (Everyone eyes stepdad suspiciously).