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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You fucking idiots. Real ones know wetness is how much vermouth it has in it.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

Churchill apocryphally liked his martinis so dry that he would observe the bottle of vermouth while pouring the gin, and that was enough

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'd like a proper wet and dirty one right now, gawddamn

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Wwweeeeeeeellllllll see, water is also touching itself constantly. Something being wet is a material surrounded by water, like the fibers of a sponge surrounded by water, in example.

In water, every water molecule is surrounded by water molecules. This means every given water molecule can be considered wet. And thus water is wet.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If I have a single water molecule then it is still water but it isn’t touching any other water molecule, thus it isn’t wet

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Exactly. So the only instance water is dry, and thus not wet, is if it's a single lonely molecule.

But water tends to come in herds, so that basically never happens.

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[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well no one would consider something with a single water molecule on it wet either.

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[–] klao@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

no, if water was just hydrogens yes but no because then its no longer water but with the oxygen the water molecules are not exactly touching each other plus the definition of wetness is about the adhesion (liquid to solid surface contact) and water is cohesive (attracted to each other)

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Something being wet is a material surrounded by water

So if I set my hand in water it's not wet because it's not immersed? What if it's not water?
Can other liquids be wet? If I dump water into a bucket of gasoline, is my gasoline wet?
If I mix a soluble powder into water, like sugar, do I have wet sugar or sugared water? Do they have to be in contact? Is a phone in a bag in water wet because it's surrounded by water, or dry because there's air between it and the water?
What about those hydrophobic materials that can be dunked in water and come out dry? What about non-liquid phases of water? Is steam wet? If I dump water on ice is there a difference in how wet it is?

The common colloquial definition of "wet" is "to be touched by a liquid". The scientific is for a liquid to displace a gas to maintain contact with a surface via intramolecular forces. Water becomes a better wetter if we add soap because it no longer tries to bind to itself instead of what it's wetting.

Neither of these has the water itself being wet, but you can have "wet ice".

Let's not pretend that a more scientific sounding colloquial definition is actually more scientific.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago
  1. Maybe. You are made mostly of water, so I don't see why lot.
  2. Same logic applies to liquids that aren't water.
  3. Gasoline being wet is an actual term, though.
  4. Yes, you have wet sugar. The sugar has just become reeeaaaally really small.
  5. The phone is dry. The bag it's in is moist.
  6. If those materials are so scared of water, they shouldn't be near water.
  7. Steam has air between it. It's dry or moist. Ice is just water holding g hands.
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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Oh please someone argue this with me!

I love semantic bs!

Water is touching water, so therefore water is wet!

Not that Thomas isn't a piece of shit regardless.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetting

Wetting is the ability of a liquid to displace gas to maintain contact with a solid surface, resulting from intermolecular interactions when the two are brought together.[1] These interactions occur in the presence of either a gaseous phase or another liquid phase not miscible with the wetting liquid.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough. I was not expecting something I could not understand

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Basically, the process of making something wet requires a liquid (usually water) to actually stick to it, through intermolecular forces. That's slightly more narrow a requirement than the "needs to touch water" that's commonly thrown around. A lotus flower or water repellent jacket doesn't get wet, even if you spray water on it, the droplets don't actually stick to the surface.

Now, water molecules stick to each other as well, that's called surface tension. But wetness, at least in physics, is defined at an interface between two mediums, a liquid and a solid, or two liquids that don't mix

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I learned something new today

[–] REDACTED 7 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Saying water is wet because it touches water sounds like "Fire is on fire because it touches fire". It just sounds fundamentally illogical as you're talking about a state of matter, not the matter itself.

I'm not a scientist, just throwing in my view on this

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

More reasonably, "wet" is often used as an adjective describing something that is liquid. Wet paint is, of course, wet.

[–] littlebrother@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Police. Yeah I'd like to report a murder.

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Good luck finding the body, that lake never gives up her dead

[–] littlebrother@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

When the skies of November turn gloomy

Yes but water touches itself. Abortion ain't murder though.

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd still argue water molecules touching eachother make themselves wet, but that guy is an ass so fuck him.

[–] klao@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

actually water molecules are cohesive (attracted to each other, yes in that sense you are right) but wetness is associated with adhesion which basically means the possibility of a liquid to adhere to a solid surface so no, water molecule themselves alone are not enough to fit into the definition of wetness i hope i wasnt too technical but i tried to be as dummy as possible

[–] orochi02@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago

Nevermind what his view on abortion is. Why does he have to start something on a post about womens rights unless he thinks they should not have rights?

[–] briever@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

That is outstanding.

Simply superior

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