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Seems that the Swiss legislature may pass a law requiring ProtonVPN to start banning certain domains from being access by French users (mostly illegal sports streaming sites)

For those using ProtonVPN, is the writing on the wall?

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know if it's the same law but they've already said they'd move countries, anywhere with laws suitable for the service

[–] coconut@programming.dev 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Would they really though? Being in Switzerland is a huge part of their brand and marketing.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 47 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

The only reason it's part of their branding because Switzerland is notoriously respectful of privacy. If they stop being that then that's no longer a selling point.

[–] pogodem0n@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I don't know how to answer that.

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[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)

(mostly illegal sports streaming sites)

This doesn't accomplish what the legislature intends. It never does. For instance, in the US, Texas in all their wisdom that can't keep an electrical grid running smooth without duct tape and bailing wire, has decided to 'ban' PornHub. It makes all the christofascist's dicks hard because in their mind, they have rooted out evil and destroyed it. (See Satanic Panic in the 80s) However, their weak, little minds cannot comprehend the fact that for every technology, there exists an equal, yet undoing technology.

Do it for the children I hear them say, and I would agree in this example, that children should not be viewing porn. A better solution would be to make parents actually parent. You brought a service into your home that can be both highly detrimental and highly beneficial, and then you turn around give it all, including a cel phone, to a very inquisitive mind uninhibited, unmonitored, and uncontrolled in any manner. You're the problem, not porn.

/end soapbox

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'd say the problem is education. Porn is only an issue because people do not get proper sex ed. The reaction to seeing a dick sucked in front of a child shouldn't be shame, disgust, or terror but allowing the inquisitive mind to ask what is happening.

Sex is a completely normal occurrence that is the reason we are all here. There shouldn't be any shame or stigma in explaining to a child (or any person for that matter) what it is, what it involves, why it is done, how to safely do it, what consent is, why it is stigmatised.

Want to protect children? Educate them.

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[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As a very tech savvy parent I have to say that setting up an inhibited, monitored and controlled internet for specific devices and users is insanely difficult. The average person stands no chance. But sure, blame the parents instead of the technology as it is sold and delivered.

[–] asceticism@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

How difficult it is has a lot of variance. Unifi make it easy to get up and going for example.

Unifi Network, make network, content filtering: family, save. Make WiFi, assign to network, save. Then you can just never give you kids access to the default network. Or you can blacklist their devices. If you want to get more advanced firewall rules are fairly easy to add as well.

[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then give them dumb phones

[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your notion of the modern world is terribly quaint

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[–] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CapitalNumbers@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

As in why is a post about VPNs on a self-hosted forum?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Does anyone have thoughts on the IPv6 privacy extensions? They theoretically could help a lot with privacy

The idea is that your device has tons of temporary IP addresses that can be used for various tasks like surfing the web.

[–] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

All of your temporary privacy addresses will be coming out of the same subnet, so it's clear they all belong to the same people.

Ultimately the privacy extensions are just bringing IPv6's privacy back in line with IPv4, because without the privacy extensions every single device has a separate IPv6 address based on its MAC address whereas in IPv4 most consumer networks have every device sharing a single IP.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Every single one of those temporary IP addresses has the same prefix, which traces back to you.

Its about as anonymous as adding an apartment number to your own street address.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes and no. The deal is your last part is your MAC. So when your extension changes they can still track you over any ipv6 connection. The privacy extension changes the last bit so you can't be tracked over any connection.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

the whole point of privacy extensions is that it replaces the MAC with a random something. the address is totally unrelated to the MAC

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

That assumes that the prefix is static which it isn't. It also assumes that you are the only one with that prefix which isn't necessarily the case. It makes it much harder to track compared to a static IP that is tied to your device.

If you are the only one using a static prefix then it is less useful but chances are that prefix is shared among lots of users and devices.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

My thought is that people who dont like this will stop using proton vpn.