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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

It’s like half of this shit out often this guy’s mouth is totally legit stuff that needed more attention, and the other half is completely bat shit crazy.

“Processed food are bad.” Yup, not shit.

“Covid vaccines aren’t safe for healthy people.” WTF are you talking about? We have given billions of doses and we know how these things perform.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Vaccines will get the most attention...but even though our use of pesticides is damaging to say the least, I'm pretty sure our agricultural base would collapse without them.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but it could be one of the best things for the environment. If crops are suddenly more expensive because of pests, then meat becomes more expensive to produce, then more land is left to re-wild because farming is not as lucrative.

We already grow more than enough food to feed everyone. If we're worried about people being able to afford food, then let's subsidize that instead of ethanol and corn syrup.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I get this is a pitch for forced veganism, but this is basically only a few degrees off of "if we let a bunch of humans die we would solve the climate crisis."

Pest blights can wipe out entire harvests, not just a clean, manageable percentage of yields. People would go hungry and die. Our current population levels depend on pesticides and fertilizers in industrial quantities, and that surplus of food you mention would quickly deplete without them.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not advocating for letting anyone die, nor am I suggesting forced veganism. My suggestion would let some people make less profit. Those people are willing to let a lot of people die to increase their profits. The climate crisis has killed people, and will kill far more than expensive corn would.

Our current population levels are going to experience a steep decline because people already cannot afford basic needs like food and rent and so they are not having children. Pesticides are not the only defense against total crop collapse due to blight. In fact, we're doing more damage to pollinators than pests as a result of overuse of pesticides. Entire food chains rely on the birds and bugs industrial farming is eliminating, and the water runoff is poisoning the fish that keep our streams and rivers clean.

To be clear, RFK is completely wrong in his reasoning, and I don't believe in doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. We should ban pesticides because pesticide use is a net bad for humans. Pesticides increase profits at the expense of ecosystems, and that in turn impacts humanity.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

My suggestion would let some people make less profit. This is the issue in every industry. The rich do not 'take less profit' - they offset costs to the poor, whether that is a financial cost or a reduction in available resources i.e. less food i.e. food costs more for the poors. I agree with everything else you're saying, but food production can't just be cut - it has to be shifted to a more eco-friendly version slowly and manageably to avoid catastrophe.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So the guy who swims in raw sewage, eats road kill, and had a brain worm is lecturing on health concerns.

If he was saying "learn from my mistakes!" that would be one thing. But no, he's going off on some things (vaccines, and fluoride in water) based on deeply-flawed conspiracy theories and in spite of the fact that there is a lot of good science and evidence refuting said conspiracies.

The food colorings and pesticides points are reasonable. But he's mixing some legit concerns with complete bullshit ones.

[–] Gregg@lemm.ee 3 points 3 hours ago

Don’t forget the decade of heroin use

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Slams! Duh duduh duh duduh let boys be boys