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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 102 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I am so sick of the word conservative. It's not conservative, it's fucking regressive. It's back sliding our society into a world that never really existed in the first place.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s not conservative, it’s fucking regressive.

I mean, Liberals aren't particularly liberal and far too many of the Progressives are barely progressive. Libertarians don't seem that interested in liberty. Centrists can't find the center. Plutocrats are immolating their capital. The Meritocrats are unqualified. The Technocrats are incompetent. Only the Fascists seem intent on delivering results consistent with their brand.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't disagree. The world liberal is wasted on the Democratic party. They're not liberal. They're just the only valid opposition to the Nazis. Even if their policies are conservative.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

They’re just the only valid opposition to the Nazis.

I think you're asking "opposition" to do more heavy lifting than it can bear in that sentence.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They’re just the only valid opposition to the Nazis.

They've rolled over so fast and so frequently that I'd hardly call them "opposition" without prefixing it with "controlled".

The most influential force in Democratic Party leadership right now is Bitcoin Banks, ffs. They're fully rotten.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The democratic party is run by conservatives that are keeping the liberals and progressives in check. The republican party is so far off the deep end we need a new word for what they are.

[–] Lime66@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I've managed to find a few that can describe the Republicans:

  • Nazis
  • Neo-Nazis
[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

I say this all the time and somehow people just can't see it. Who cares what they call themselves. Its what they do and what they want that describes them.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Conservative" just means "extreme far-right" now.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

That’s only if you let it

To me it’s still what Americans consider left

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 31 points 1 month ago

... can... can we go there?

[–] Salamand@lemmy.today 22 points 1 month ago

It's funny cuz people actually think this way, and don't realize what a self-own it is.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone added that to the PragerU post? Because I can't imagine PragerU posting a Utopian image with that text. PragerU are worse than Fox "Newz".

[–] VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 month ago

PragerU posted the text, someone added the image.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Love how even in this future people still park on the fuckin sidewalks.

Cant change the fact that people suck

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm fine with conservative media in theory, but the problem with conservative media these days is just the constant blatant lying.

I think there's definitely room for conservative voices, like:

  • Conserving the environment.
  • Putting checks and balances on AI and technology in general
  • Maintaining non-harmful cultural traditions (Morris Dancing is cringe, but it should still be around)
  • Promoting an emphasis on local community and family rather than individualism fuelling the capitalist system

Even traditions that have been harmful can be recontextualised and maintained and used as a means of teaching, rather than thrown out entirely in the name of progress. People are so drawn to places like Japan (at least partially) because they maintain their traditions and seek to conserve what they have rather than constantly push forward and bulldoze everything old because it's old. Obviously not everyone believes in the traditions, but they keep them anyway.

Nowadays though? Conservatives have basically tossed all of that in favor of allowing capital to completely bulldoze over traditions and then blaming the ensuing misery on the gays.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don't think political conservatism has ever meant caring about conserving heritage and nature. From the inception of the concept in the 18th century to now, it's always been about conserving (or bringing back) inequality in power and wealth. It was never about preserving nature or protecting other people their way of life. Then and now, the credo of the conservative movement might just as well be "I want rules for thee but not for me".

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then what would you call someone who holds those beliefs? The belief that some things ought to be conserved and progress ought to be held back in some circumstances? I would call that conservative in a small c kind of way, as opposed to big c Conservatives that are all about centralised power and handing everything over to big businesses to strip the world clean of anything of value.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Conservators are those that work towards the conservation of things.

Edit: conservation and conservatism are 2 very different things. To work towards conservation of something is not going to be directly tied to political backgrounds: It is not because someone is a socialist or liberal, that they will not want to conserve some things. Everyone will probably have some things (nature, monuments, traditions, ...) that they want to conserve for future generations.

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How could you ban political speech without some kind of Act under the guise of keeping Kids Safe Online?

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Actually holding platforms accountable for hate speech and propagating dangerous misinfo would solve 90% of the problem. Some shitty guy self hosting his Nazi rants was never the problem. It's a problem when he's allowed to push his content directly to users unprompted.

Believe it or not people hated minorities and drank bleach before social media, they just weren't on the front page.

[–] Astrophage@lemy.lol 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Have we tried putting them on a boat and sending on to find the next continent? If we did that, I might start celebrating Columbus day!

[–] 50MYT@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

G'day mate.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, several times. The colonies of every major recent empire were essentially formed this way. It sounds good on paper, but it ends up just being harborage for conservatism.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Imagine a world where news was balanced and progressives had equal media representation.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

looks like cool discussion downwind but why should we even argue about what is "conservative"

you're interested in conserving resources? you got some canned food in your cubbard? you tried to teach your kid whatever bullshit you thought was important from your folks? BOOM you're a Filthy Conservative.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm interested in conserving the word "cupboard"

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

damn swear i knew some one on the internet would come after for that

you're not wrong though

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Old Mother Hubbard glares disapprovingly

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

some individual should explain to her about phonetic spelling and it's all irrelevant, as long as you understand the context and hopefully the nuance

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Imagine all the people...

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