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When Helen Clark's Labour government brought in a law that would create waves of undocumented children, even the immigration experts had no idea of the impact it would have on thousands of lives.

The 2006 Citizenship Amendment Act ended automatic citizenship for children born here to overstayers or parents with temporary visas. It was also supported by the National party.

"It is only recent because these children are now finishing high school and realising that their life has now come to an end, they don't have any options as to what to do."

At the time Helen Clark said she was concerned about incidents of people flying to New Zealand for a short time and having babies here to ensure they gained passports, known as "birth tourism".

"Every year now more and more children are going to be coming out of high school and realising that they can't study, they can't go and get jobs because it would be a breach of the law for employers to employ someone who's here unlawfully. So they can't work, they can't study, they can't travel, they just simply cannot do anything."

McClymont says he has not had a satisfactory response from the government to his suggestion that New Zealand follow Australia and Britain by giving children birthright citizenship after 10 years of habitual residence.

"Really, it's hard to see what the justification is for punishing these children. Nobody is making the argument that these children have done something wrong and that they deserve to be punished.

"The only potential argument is that these children are being punished as a deterrent for others against having children here in New Zealand," he says.

"It's just unfathomable as a society that we can actually do this to children and use them for this purpose. There doesn't seem to be any moral justification whatsoever for treating them so badly."

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Where are the parents of these children? This seems like a huge failure or completely intentional.

However our government should easily be able to see that we've already paid the cost to educate these kids and should probably just provide them a quick abd easy path to citizenship.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 weeks ago

The parents are the overstayers. It's intentional on the part of the parents, the point of the article is that we react to this by punishing the kids, who didn't decide to be born here.

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The parents are living undocumented lives as illegal overstayers.

Their children never made that choice, it seems to me that we're creating a whole group of New Zealanders who aren't legally allowed to better themselves through proper study or work.

I think you are right, we educated them. As well as being fairer, it's in New Zealand's best interests to not create a caste system of people who were born into that life.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep, they've still got basic rights, after all. Might as well legitimse and be able to tax 'em (using a very crude lens here!).

Question is, do we send the parents home, or something else? (probably time I read the article...)

[–] liv@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Their parents haven't been captured (NZ used to physically do that in the 1970s, it was a really bad scene).

Personally I'm in favour of just naturalising our existing undocumented workforce after 20 years. But I can see why people think it creates an incentive etc.

I any think of how else to do it, humanely.

The simplistic approach is to send then home, but that quickly becomes horrendous (what about those that fled here or are from different countries)

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I wish I could be invisible. I'd go to an all-inclusive resort and just live like that