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Reading about FOSS philosophy, degoogling, becoming against corporations, and now a full-blown woke communist (like Linus Torvalds)

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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 182 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

I was feeling the last part had some more story behind it so I went ahead and found this:

Seems like I'm a full-blown woke communist too

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's strange to me that any of the things he said is controversial.

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm definitely woke af. And proud of it.

I have come to think that when profits are at odds with health, happiness, the good of society and humanity, then either a non profit foundation needs to be running it or it needs to be in the hands of the government—but a much less corrupt one. And I believe oligopolies need to be broken up and anti trust laws greatly expanded and enforced. Then we can deal with the oligopoly / plutocracy. We set a maximum wage (including all earnings) and tax 100% above that. Penalties for regulatory breaches include jail time. For corporations. With corporations reigned in, oligopolies and oligarchies crumbled, we can prevent regulatory capture and corruption. Campaign finance is abolished and it is paid for out of public funds. We abolish first past the post voting in favor of scientifically determined better alternatives to ensure voters actually have a variety of choices.

Idk wtf that makes me except maybe a ranting lunatic lol

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[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 104 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Context for those who are baffled (I was)

https://news.itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-woke-communists/

No Linus hasn't grabbed a red rag and isn't off to foment revolution

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I liked the take by the utterly clueless Polish guy in the comment. I think his complete lack of understanding of any context is quite typical of online political conversation, especially when semantics come into play.

Also Linus did call for "Total world domination" (I have the tshirt).

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 75 points 2 years ago (14 children)

The Linux to trans anarchocommunist catgirl pipeline is very real. The moment you move to Arch it's already over.

[–] Caitlynn@feddit.de 24 points 2 years ago

I'm feeling called out

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[–] ConfusedLlama@kbin.social 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (19 children)

rant:

I have been using Linux since 2006, a lefty and against the super-rich and big corporations since I remember (to the point of avoiding their products like the plague), also never having understood or accepted gender roles and other stupid traditional concepts, yet never turned into a communist 🤷

It baffles me that so many people think that respecting gender equality, understanding the evil in big corporations and avoiding them, valuing community and being tolerant (except for intolerance) and against discrimination somehow equals communism... I say this because I've been called a communist by many people who know me, while I have always rejected it explicitly!

/rant

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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Linus Torvalds is a "full-blown woke communist"? Citation needed.

I have been a FOSS enthusiast since my preteen or early teenage years (mid-to-late 2000s), yet I am not in any sense a communist.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"full-blown woke communist" is US-speak for "Scandinavian socialist"

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 23 points 2 years ago

The term you want is social democrat, which isn't socialism but hey, it tries to like, stop people starving to death on the street, if only because it looks ugly.

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[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

unfortunately I think this is just him saying he's a "woke communist" if being a woke communist is atheism, women's rights, and gun control. I don't think he's a marxist of any stripe it seems. However, I am willing to be corrected here. I've only seen this post regarding to him.

But Linux is programming-communism

[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ugh I should probably try reading things soviet-pout

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 24 points 2 years ago

His dad was a straight up member of the Finnish Communist Party. He's still alive, and is even a member of the European Parliament, but seems more liberal/centrist these days.

Linus himself seems to be pretty mum on politics.

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[–] whou@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I too just turned into a Marxist after finding out about Linux and software freedom in 2020 lol

I think there might be more than a handful of us. Welcome, comrade.

[–] imAadesh@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago
[–] bear@slrpnk.net 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] mustardman@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

fidel-salute-big welcome comrade!

[–] citrusface@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

...I just didn't want windows advertising to me.

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[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

ITT: people who have no idea what communism is

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[–] stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi 30 points 2 years ago (24 children)

Yeah, I love the FOSS philosophy and I would be a communist if I didn't know that in my country and in every other country where communism is/was, it became a dictatorship doing reallly horrible things. I simply don't have the trust in people to believe communism is possible without violation of human rights. It's sad.

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[–] thebrownhaze@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel called out.

I'm not quite there yet but im definitly at the second to last block

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[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 27 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Fuck communist statist, foss is pure anarchism.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My ~~brother in Christ~~ Comrade in the revolution, Communism is a stateless, moneyless, classless society. Whatever self-proclaimed "Statist Communists" thare are, are no-more Communist than the National "Socialists" who sent our kind to the death camps.

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[–] Rumo@feddit.de 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Anarchism does not necessarily exclude Communism! :)

Good Explanations: https://www.anarchistfaq.org/afaq/index.html for those interested

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Shit this is too accurate

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago
[–] M68040@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

Part of how I got here involves reading an assload of textfiles from the '90s and growing disillusioned with the fruits of that optimistic '90s techno-libertarianism

[–] tal@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

https://moneyinc.com/linus-torvalds-net-worth/

How Linus Torvalds Achieved a Net Worth of $150 Million

Red Hat and VA Linux went public, and since they acknowledged it would not have been possible without the programmer, Torvalds received shares reportedly worth $20 million. Before it went public, Red Hat had allegedly paid Torvalds $1 million in stock, which the programmer claims was the only big payout he received.

He revealed that the rest of the stock Transmeta and another Linux startup awarded him were not worth much by the time he could sell them. However, in the case of his Red Hat stock, it must have been worth his while because, in 2012, Red Hat became the first $1 billion open-source company when it reached the billion-dollar mark in annual revenue.

Whether he exercised his stock options is unclear, but the money he makes from the gains could be the reason why his net worth has continued to soar.

Well, that's one definition of being communist, I suppose. Myself, I think that it's fairly safe to say that Torvalds is okay with private ownership of industry.

[–] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago

People may have read this and got too excited. He just believes in socially left policy. He's probably not a communist.

[–] askat@programming.dev 19 points 2 years ago

I don't know about his political views, but I think Linus deserves every last penny he got from Red Hat.

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[–] Koffiato@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (13 children)

What? These things are not related to each other by a good margin. In fact, since the FOSS is completely orderless, it goes against communism; which requires some sort of order just to be able to function. But either way, the parallel is not there or questionable at best, not to mention irrelevant.

Can we NOT drag useless politics into FOSS?

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the marxism understander has logged on

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[–] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally same, even the years match up lol

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